I just leave you with my favorite quote of Ljdawson, made during the reddit api war:
“I don’t know. I don’t track shit.”
He has crashlytics. That’s about it.
Tbh, I don’t care for open or closed source, I don’t even care for free or payed. (19 bucks per year… That’s like what, a coffee and a donut at a Starbuck?)
Stuff must just work and to be honest… All available clients all work sort of.
This one does this good but sucks at multi instances. That one screws up gifs from that and this site. Made an error typing your user name!/password during setup? Tough shit. You can’t edit it so redo from start, remove it and type well this time.
Sync just seems to work.
That’s not to shit on anyone hard work: I can’t do it, I can’t make them, I’m glad these clients exist. I don’t expect free tools to be perfect.
But I’m also superglad Sync for lemmy is a thing. And I will pay for it when it’s out of beta.
Sync not only works. It’s the smoothest App I have on my phone. The animations and transitions are just beautiful, well timed and do not stutter even a tiny bit. I wish all android apps were like Sync. I’ll gladly pay whatever he charges.
Sync just seems to work.
And that is why I’ve used it for all these years. There are no weird quirks, it just does exactly what I need it to do.
There are no weird quirks
There are definitely weird quirks, I’ve only had it installed for 10 minutes and have already found this one when comments are sorted by top.
https://i.imgur.com/dqMJS2a.png
It appears if a reply is voted higher than it’s parent comment then it will appear above it instead of under it. Quite annoying. Hopefully it gets worked out soon.
Sync has by far the highest customization which I love, and will happily pay the $20 for the ad-free version when the kinks are worked out. Although, Jerboa is a close second, and if they put in a default comment sorting option, I might just stick with it as it’s FOSS.
I’m not sure what I’m looking at in your screenshot. Everything looks fine and normal to me.
I am also willing to give the app the benefit of the doubt because it is still in beta and has been available for less than 24 hours so far.
This one might be easier to see for you.
How it looks in Sync, it’s fucked up.
https://files.catbox.moe/a0puro.png
How it looks in Jerboa, it is correct.
I noticed that, this happens when I set comment sort to Top. Works fine when set to Hot. Still in beta, they’ll hopefully fix it.
Thanks, that makes it a little more clear. Seems like that might be something more than comments out of order, though. At least as far as I could tell the hierarchy of post times appears correct, it’s just not showing everything.
It’s putting child comments that have higher upvotes above the parent comments. So it seems to be sorting strictly by upvote without taking into account hierarchy. A child comment shouldn’t appear above the parent comment like it is doing.
Had that one as well. Makes reading posts with many comments almost impossible. Let’s hope it gets fixed soon.
This was fixed in the latest update.
Yeah I assumed the ad tracking was mostly Google’s own doing, or whatever ad provider that hes using for injected ads.
Sync just seems to work.
Didn’t I read the current version does not allow you to post? I feel its pretty weird to release an app in that state and still keep ads in it.
But if you are happy paying and using that, more power to you! Meanwhile I save that money and use one of the many open source clients that actually work.
I’m posting from it right now. The ads don’t seem to work through. I’m not blocking any but I’ve not seen one yet.
That sounds better then, thanks for clearing that up.
Sync is fantastic, and I’ve used it for years. But I’ll be sticking with Thunder. Its UI is close, and I’m able to contribute the things I want to change.
You do you, but for me personally, the only honest software in existence is software willing to disclose it’s source code.
Sync is fucking fantastic, just how I remember. I don’t mind at all paying for a great app by a talented dev.
The pro version is supposed to be out later, and will just be a one-time payment unlike ultra’s subscription
It’s available as an IAP for $19.99 now
Same, I’m paying for the ultra subscription. But I understand if someone is using another app, Connect is pretty good. I’m just an old dog
Its not about the money but about the software freedom and source transparency
I say this as someone who is probably one of the biggest supporters of software-freedom around here, but bullying or shaming people for preferring non-free apps does nothing but incite resentment towards the movement. I value the four freedoms because I think I deserve control of my computing, not because I think it’s my place to dictate what others should value.
The community is one of the worst aspects when working with/on opensource software.
There are so many people with Open Source rabies…
Combine that with all those people who don’t understand the difference between software developed by people who donate their spare time to work on FOSS software and for-profit software developed by big corporations. As a FOSS dev you get so many entitled assholes who think downloading a free app gives them the right to threaten/abuse the devs.
And then there are the fanboys who attack everyone who talks about downsides of their favourite product.
All in all, the hostile community makes FOSS development very not fun.
This is what gets me. I look into software for my company. Someone put up a open source alternative. I expressed my concerns with a small open source project and they acted like i murdered his first born. Well past the point of unprofessional and into the HR realm.
I’m not against open source by any means but there is a place for everything. This just was not the place for this specific product with only a handful of devs and no support. If a system goes down we need to have someone we can call.
In about 10 mins of pooping time i’ve seen so much fanboyism as you’ve described. More than ive ever seen prior.
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I just installed the new sync and I’m given the impression that everyone here is 5’7 and uses gentoo so they have to compensate
I voiced my opinion on one of the sync announcement posts and it was received quite controversially.
We all get stuck in our own camps and become quote tribal and I feel like all around it’s difficult to not take what is being said as some kind of attack.
I think that’s nuts. I use sync and I don’t care what you use. You can also dislike Sync all you want, I will never feel attacked by that.
I don’t get why instead of making posts about “Don’t use Sync!” no one is saying “Feel free to use and pay for whatever you like! But as a friendly reminder please note that you should also consider helping your instance owners or the core Lemmy team as well.”
There’s nothing wrong at all with paying for software, and even some will be fine with ads. It has literally nothing to do with anyone else but that person. Let them do them.
Like I say though, I think the thing that should be being said is that the app is not self contained and that these people should seriously consider helping out the other aspects as well if they can. But hey, no, let’s just belittle them and push them away instead of welcoming them. I can almost guarantee that the availability of Sync will bring more users to Lemmy that never would have been here otherwise.
I don’t think the meme is bullying or shaming people using sync…right? He said he likes infinity better even though sync is awesome because its libre and open source
I used Sync for almost the full 11 years on Reddit and will gladly support the dev on Lemmy.
Same. Sync was the only way I accessed Reddit since 2012.
You understand the feeling I have today using it. Feels so good.
I don’t understand the bitching about it, we users were asking for this, it is the good thing about Lemmy/Fediverse, you have tons of options, and probably will have more, heck even the PWA are awesome, no need to download anything at all.
People like to bitch
You have to accept to being tracked by Google, having an advertising id, all the data Firebase collects. Their ToS is large.
Users were asking for it, that’s true. I guess users don’t really care about being tracked, allowing google into their phone and indirectly supporting them controlling the web, thus enabling them to do things like manifest v3 or the web integrity API.
Ads? understandable, the dev has bills to pay. Not open source? Purists may hate it, but not the end of the world. Tracking? Google? No thanks, the beautiful design is not worth it.
Many of us were sync users who came over because of the api changes. Don’t care about tracking.
One time payment is there. Someone confirmed that there is no connection to Google after paying the one time payment.
I will admit I never knew any of this
Remind me of that meme where the person is complaining about the thing, gets the thing and then has the frowny face.
Sync is a perfectly fine app for me. I tried all other apps and nowhere near to sync. I don’t even have ads on the free version as I am using dns ad blocker. The moment one time payment for removing ads is out(it is coming), I will buy it. Or I will donate to dev in some other way as I am not a fan of subscriptions.
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they?
he.
there is 1 dev.
A very deserving dev
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I have the option to remove ads in Sync right now. =)
With subscription
Edit: nevermind, the one time purchase is up now!
And without. The update already provides the option to just Remove ads.
I bought the subscription for one year to support the developer. I hate subscriptions though. I can’t see a one time purchase…
You gotta update the app. It’s there now
I do not have ads either…but no idea why I do not have an ad blocker, they just appear.empty for some reason.
Yeah they are empty on my phone too, and I’ve never used any DNS-adblocking on my home network. I suspect it might be because whatever ad system Sync uses currently just doesn’t have any ads for my country, but I don’t actually know.
It’s the same in the US (for me at least) also, either it’s not working just yet, or it’s just a placeholder for now, you never know with pre-release apps.
There’s just nothing that comes even close to Sync for me. Happy to support the developer.
I’ve tried different reddit third party apps for months at a time, and I’ve got to say, Sync is probably the best app I have used in terms of designs and fluidity.
Same I haven’t seen a single ad. I’ll probably pay to removed them anyways but I want to evaluate the competition first
What adblocker are you using?
I am using a private dns ad blocker. android phones have the option to change the dns server, I changed it to dns.adguard.com
Best option on Android: Netguard, the F-Droid-version. The Google Play Store version has no adblocking capability.
Yeah, this shit is getting old really quickly.
What client I use doesn’t affect your experience. I and lots of others are reddit refugees and I used sync for years. I’m ecstatic to have the interface back.
Bullshit gatekeeping and bickering over ideological purity doesn’t help anyone. At the end of the day, lemmy is confusing for someone accustomed to reddit. There is a learning curve. Most of us just want to exchange info and converse. I don’t give a fuck to learn about FOSS and all that other bullshit any more than any of you want to learn the specialized minutiae I have to sift through at my day job.
Shut the fuck up already. This sort of discourse lands like a bunch of shitty kids meeting at a half empty bar all criticizing how one another got there
I just installed Sync after browsing with Jerboa for the past month. Sync has such a clean, smooth look that if it functions even remotely consistently it’ll be my new replacement.
I’m soooo happy to be done with Jerboa… Haven’t uninstalled it yet but it’s such a buggy piece of crap compared to Sync so it’s only a matter of time til I do.
The backspace bug where it removed the previous spacing between words really bothered me.
Check out all the UI options. The customization is really awesome, even if it’s a little confusing at times. The search box in options helps.
I lasted half a day with Jerboa, it really didn’t work for me. Connect has kept me happy since though.
Just tried Sync. It’s like a better Connect.
I’m waiting for Infinity, but I’ll try sync in the mean time.
5-6 different open source and ad free options, with no trackers whatsoever, and some of y’all are fawning over…you know what? To each their own. At least y’all are here and not on reddit 😁
Edit: I was wrong, there’s around 20 options (including Sync) for Lemmy apps that are either already out or in development. Enjoy the buffet.
what’s the point of judging? Sync is the only app so far that has full, thoughtful support for foldable phones and the dev genuinely has been putting in a lot of work into it. I bought the No Ads IAP and I’m perfectly happy with it, but there are so many good options now for those that want something completely free.
Because the open source community has been full of a bunch of people who built whole personalities on shitting on anything not FOSS. And even though they now have an opportunity to bring a lot more people into the community than before they’d rather play these stupid arrogant superiority games instead of just letting people enjoy things how they want to enjoy them.
Right? No need for the smugposting
Smugposting would be me calling sync people “Lemmy J. Fry”
Cause FOSS people are worse than vegans. It’s like Linux users but infinitely worse.
FOSS ≠ better or good. Most of the FOSS Lemmy apps are usability nightmares right now. The only reason I was using jerboa for so long is because sync wasn’t out yet
FOSS apps often suffer from mediocre UX/UI since the expected audience are power users, but it alienates users that aren’t. They’re functional for those who need it, yes, but is the GUI high quality? More often than not, they aren’t.
I’m not saying FOSS can’t have bad UI, like Blender for example, but those are the exception, not the rule.
For me, Connect and Thunder are getting there, but they don’t have the same level of quality and finesse as Sync. Though to be fair, Sync has a decade of work put into it.
Bro you’re smugposting rn
I’m really just disappointed nobody found “Lemmy J Fry” funny. That had me cracking up before I went to sleep last night. Either way, I feel less… passionate about the subject after a good night’s sleep. Spend money, don’t spend money, doesn’t matter either way as long as you’re here. Now, the moment I hear about awards or ads on Lemmy instances, imma be back on my bullshit, and I hope some of you will join in 🙂
Hahaha with you 100% there
Pretty sure I said “to each their own”.
Saying something at the end of your rant doesn’t preclude anyone from responding to you.
It’s a rant now? You’re putting tens on twos. Gotta relax bud.
Your post? Your comment?
Congrats on being insufferable, bud.
Thanks, it took a lot of hard work and dedication. I’ll do us both a favor and block you, so that we can get on with our lives. This Convo has obviously gone on too long.
Please, stop, don’t.
do you really have a hard time understanding how different people have different preferences and how familiarity works or do you just like being smug?
as for “trackers” and ads you will find that unless they are intrusive about 99% of the population doesn’t give a fuck, even on a fairly niche site like lemmy the majority won’t give a fuck.
I absolutely judge people who don’t care about online privacy
The only people who don’t care are entirely tech illiterate and make no effort to understand why its an issue.
And you’re absolutely right. I’m here to stand with you on that.
- I’m just used to it, and no other client accommodates my workflow (liftoff is very close but has some annoying issues, quirks and differences),
- It’s quality software with great design and a lot of customization options.
I totally get the familiarity aspect, I think I just enjoy tinkering around and the feeling of learning how something new works. Either way, glad to have y’all here and not there 🙂
Teenagers are the worst
Agreed.
I love FOSS but I got pretty used to the official reddit app, and Sync is the only app that feels like if the reddit app wasn’t buggy and laggy. The paid aspect doesn’t bother me because I would have donated to whatever app I use anyway, at $5/mo the $20 one time ad removal option makes sense if I use it for more than 4 months so it’s worth it to me.
Imagine Apollo for Lemmy 😮💨
i’m using memmy (iOs) ! works very good, and it feels nostalgic since they tried their best to… be inspired by apollo 😄
I love Memmy for Lemmy!
They have added the blue jump button. It makes it hard to upvote comments at the bottom, but love that it is there.
You can hide it in settings—>appearance
You can hide the button, but my favourite way to upvote comments/posts is by swiping a bit to the right!
And if you deep-swipe to the right it will downvote.
My gf installed that one yesterday, but I think it does not have an option to mark as read posts while you scroll, hide read posts?
I couldn’t even see if the read posts were dimmed.
All “hide read posts” options are here!
In Settings -> Content -> Hide Read Posts .
edit: to clarify, i have the 0.5 version. i’ll update to 0.5.1 now.
That’s Voyager.
That’s Voyager.
Great… Now I get to look forward to a trip back from the delta quadrant.
Which is also coming for Android!
💪
i’d love a native version since brave keeps resetting voyager every 2 or 3 days
Just keep waiting mate!
Yeah no, Apollo was native, Vogager isn’t
Native already incoming and PWA works awesome.
except it’s not, because Voyager is React and comes with all the baggage that using React brings.
Native clients all the way.
Works great as PWA, and Voyager is already coming native.
Hopefully the dev changes his mind about not creating an app for lemmy
Have you heard of wefwef? It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.
Link to a Reddit post about it, quickest I could find in short order at work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14lr2n4/wefwef_is_an_apollo_like_web_app_for_lemmy/
It’s called Voyager now.
Thanks, I didn’t realize that. My icon still says wefwef.
For the PWA you’ll have to remove and re-add it to get the updated name and icon, if you want them. Not required by any means though
Thanks that worked!, I feel like I preferred the old icon though :/ I’ll get used to the new one I guess.
Is it? I got it before it was on App Store, so it still says wefwef. Should I go get Voyager because one day updates won’t transfer over? Or am I good, and super duper cool cus I got OG Voyager?
Seriously good by any measure, and fantastic for a webapp. Smoother and more native-feeling than a lot of actual native apps.
Yes and big fan as well even hosted it on my instance
good job on having india’s first general instance (ig?)
Yeah, it’s called Voyager, and it doesn’t even have the Pixel Pals or pop-ups that ruined Apollo!
Fun fact, me and Clarkson are both from Donny:
I used sync for reddit for years, I had no ads in the free version and the pro version. I’ve tried a half dozen apps for Lemmy since my Reddexit. Sync for Lemmy is far and away the best. I really missed its design. I was happy to toss $20 to you for no ads on Sync for Lemmy. Thanks for all the hard work.
I drove through it once, looked rough as shit.
Good job you didn’t stop
Nice, I have family in Nottinghamshire.
Also, is your .ml or .world your main instance? The .world seems to have the biggest audience
.world is
How about instead we respect everyone’s decisions and preferences? Free as in freedom, is that not what the Open Source community is about?
That’s how I’ve always read this meme format. It literally says the non-preferred option is still brilliant.
Sure, but when people are excited about something, they’re going to trash-talk. It’s healthy to have the freedom of debate these choices.
Anyone can choose to install whatever software they choose on their device, but the “free” in free software specifically refers to the freedom to read and modify the source code.
Under the philosophy of the FOSS movement, all proprietary software are by definition unethical.
Since Lemmy and the larger fediverse is the choice for many free software advocates, it’s natural that you see this kind of backlash when fundamentally unethical software to interact with it is released.
Does this meme make you feel disrespected? Why?
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Right, but sync isn’t even free in that regard. It serves you ads, tracks you, and is closed source. I’d happily financially contribute to it if it were actually FOSS
Y’all gotta stop shitting on non-FOSS Lemmy apps.
Lemmy is Lemmy, let people access the platform how they want to. It doesn’t affect you. Don’t use Sync if you don’t want to.
Why can’t I just use the service that has a design I like?
I wouldn’t have used reddit if it wasn’t for sync and that same logic applies to lemmy. Adoption is critical for lemmy to succeed so please tone it down a bit, unless having the same 2 dozen people in your community was your personal appealing feature of lemmy.
I have always preferred Infinity when I was using Reddit. But right now Infinity for Lemmy seems to be not in a usable state. I have been using Thunder For Lemmy as of recently, not sure if I will switch from it to Infinity for Lemmy once its in a more usable state.
Edit: I can’t even use Sync for Lemmy as on the Play Store it says its unavailable on my device. I have a Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra. One would think that it would be available considering its pretty much this years flagship of the largest Android brand.
Edit 2: It seems to not be because of the device itself @[email protected] seems to have been able to download it on their s23 Ultra.
Edit 3: It was because of Age Verification. I can now download it fine.
It is very much in alpha stage now,but usable for me.
I also face the same issue with play store, I ended up using Aurora store(fdroid) to download the app.
I started using Infinity today and it seems to be working great for everything that I need it for.
The website I saw said it didn’t support creating posts. Maybe It was wrong?
I just tried and couldn’t create a post. Guess it’s not quite feature complete yet
Strange, I have a Galaxy S23 Ultra and I had no issues installing it.
Hmm. Then I am not sure. @[email protected] seems to also be facing the same problems as me. I don’t think its a locality issue as I am in the US, unless for whatever reason that is the issue.
I just checked again. Play store link is working for me now
I checked again and its still not letting me.
Try switching google accounts in playstore
I switched to a different one, and now it has the install button. Not sure why it won’t let me install from my main one.
I guess it has something to do with age verification
was using Thunder the past couple of weeks, because I couldn"t get warm with Jerboa, but once I saw Infinity comming out, I immediately downloaded it and haven’t had problems since
