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“Cure”
Fking lol
And stimulants are insanley addictive, terrible for you, and make you go crazy
Idk bro I have adhd and have taken stimulants for over 5 years now. These days I take less than when I started, and I sometimes take weeks off by accident. I’m more addicted to caffeine than dexedrine lol.
Weird. It’s almost like they have value to society, but need to be responsibly prescribed by licensed physicians. No? You think they’re just always bad for all people…? Okay then…
Did you ever take any of that shit?
I’d probably get addicted to them if I didn’t have ADHD and didn’t constantly forget they even exist
Jokes aside, it is an invaluable medication (not a cure) for those that it helps.
And non-stimulants are so subtle that they’re not even worth the cost of a visit to the psychiatrist. I don’t understand why they exist when they do nothing for the forgetfulness nor the depression, the two biggest ailments I have that are caused by ADHD.
You might just have depression cause strattera works great for me and there is a stark difference in my ability to concentrate and get work done.
I thought so too but I already tried every antidepressant under the sun before getting an ADHD diagnosis… Think it might be time for a third opinion.
Ever tried psychedelic therapy? I’ve heard of good results with that for people resistant to all other options, when taken under direct supervision and guidance of an experienced therapist. Not a clue how much something like that would cost though.
Yep.
I am addicted to my brain functioning normally and being able to accomplish things
It is terrible for me that I didn’t get diagnosed sooner.
It made me go crazy with how big of a difference it has made in my life. I went from sluggish trash goblin hissing at the light to a productive wood elf singing and creating great crafts.
So, yeah, what you said.
Not nearly as addictive as alcohol or nicotine but here we are.
Look at those downvotes. People don’t pause.
Not sure why your being downvoted because besides addiction that was 100% my experience. They ruined so much of my formative years.
I do acknowledge that they can work great for some people, but so does cannabis which improved my quality of life and emotional regulation directly rather then turning me into a docile mindless drone.
They’re being downvoted because their statement is provably false.
…people with ADHD who take these medications as prescribed are lesslikely than their untreated counterparts to drink or abuse drugs.
https://www.additudemag.com/the-truth-about-adhd-and-addiction/
Maybe its just me but i see no conflict on how both cant be true. “Less likely” == “not”
I’ve known more then a few people with adhd who snorted their prescription ritalin and abused multiple other drugs on top of it.
I hated what it did to me to much to get addicted, my experience was definitely that they made me go insane, quit cold turkey the day after my last exam, it took a long time and alot of therapy to feel somewhat like myself again.
That doesn’t take away that some people are absolutely helped by such medicine and do not experience the same side effects.
Everyone is different and the same counts for how we respond to any given drug.
Oh yeah, to be clear not everyone with ADHD responds well to every stimulant, or stimulants in general. It’s even more complicated if you have a co-morbid condition such as bipolar type II. They can make bipolar symptoms worse, and trigger a manic episodes.
Maybe its just me but i see no conflict on how both cant be true. “Less likely” == “not”
Something that is important to keep in mind for such statements is that scientific research rarely speaks in absolute terms. It takes a lot for something to get to the point of scientific law. Gravity, for example, is still in scientific theory territory. In order for the scientific community to make the statement “people with ADHD cannot become addicted to stimulants”, neurobiology and neurochemistry would need to be better understood than the force that has been officially described in scientific literature for 350 years. If any possible avenue exists to cause addiction, the absolute statement would not be scientifically accurate.
i understand the sentiment and I appreciate the irony but medication is only as much a ‘cure’ for ADHD as ‘having no legs’ can be ‘cured’ by a wheelchair.
I could never remember if I took my pills, so I bought one of those weekly pill organizers. I used it for a few weeks…But now I don’t feel like filling it up each week, so I just take them in the morning when I go to the bathroom… Then later on in the afternoon I wonder if I have taken my pills because I was on autopilot in the morning.
When I go to bed I put my pill bottle in one place. When I take the pill in the morning, I put it in a different place. I’ve considered buying one of those timer bottle caps. They fit generic pill bottles and have timer built into the top. You can look at the timer and see how long it’s been since you opened the bottle last.
Hmm that’s interesting.
I would go nuts or od if not for the pill organizer. Refilling sucks. But I sigh loudly every Sunday and manage to do it lol
I am currently sitting on the edge of my bed, scrolling, and most definitely not starting the ritual of opening a half dozen pill bottles, divvying them up for the week, and then opening one more bottle and going through the hassle of cutting some in half to get the right/current dose.
One of these hours that will change. Probably when the bladder starts screaming.
Don’t bother filling it. Close it at the end, and pop open the lid for each day. I keep my pills in the bottle.
Yes but how do you remember to do that every day?
How do you not forget that you even have the organiser?
Mate I’ve forgotten the concept of eating food, I’ve misplaced my phone that I was holding 30 seconds ago, I’ve not been able to recall every card in any of my magic the gathering decks from memory ever since I started playing about 10 years ago.
I’ve forgotten what I was talking about mid sentence because I had to get a sip of water. You can forget about anything with ADHD, just different people remember things differently. I can recall my partner’s favorite colors and hobbies, I can barely recall my own favorite media I saw.
I think you missed the “not” in my comment
I think that was my ADHD latching onto my joke lol
Something that worked for me was to fill it when I think about it rather than at the end of the week when it’s empty, now I never seem to forget it outside of some bad weeks.
Having to look in the fridge when searching for my phone is one of the things that is never not funny to my friends
I don’t! I also have a task reminder, and I sometimes still forget. I finally got every day one week in December. Then, 5 weeks later, I missed every day. It sucks!
What about those fidget popping things? Label each with a day press in the day when you take a pill. Then just flip it over when the week starts over.
I keep a bottle of Irn Bru or something else too revolting to forget washing the pills down with next to the pills.
… But now I have to remember to close them all at the end of the week 😰
What about those fidget popping things? Label each with a day press in the day when you take a pill. Then just flip it over when the week starts over.
Must … Pop … All of them
On Sundays, I close them all. I also have a calendar task and still forget, it’s just better than without one or the other.
I had 3 or 4 of those organizers. I’d fill them all up at once and then only had to remember to do it, while medicated, once a month or so.
That’s what my mom does for my dad since he takes like 10 pills a day.
I bought a replacement pill bottle with a digital timer in the lid that resets when you open it so you can always see how long it’s been since you last took it- it’s been a huge help and managing my medication. It’s called the BudCapTimer or TimerCap. Here’s a link - https://a.co/d/iZJilMh
Maybe get a 1 month organizer or a few more weekly ones so you only have to refill once a month. There are also timer lock box or pill cap gadgets.
I attempted to get a month one before, the problem is that they’re huge and take up a lot of counter space.
Oh shoot! My Focalin!! Thanks for the reminder.
My insurance/doctor told me about focalin and I swear it sounds like some made up ADHD med like in South Park or something
soothing voice talk to your doctor about Focusil today
That’s honestly what it sounds like to me
Haha. Pretty much. It’s not perfect though. For me it definitely helps with focusing, staying on task and getting things done but if I take it for too long in a row, I get quicker to anger and more anxious. But a lower dose doesn’t have any positive effects, so I’m stuck choosing which week I want to be efficient and which eeek I want to lean off and chill out more.
The Simpsons had one called Focusin
Didn’t they also call ambien Napien or something
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Dressing up as a functional adult.
I.e. “playing pretend”
“I like your outfit.”
“Good, because I’m not wearing this uncomfortable outfit for me.”
Aka: Masking
I need to take two, one before and one after breakfast. That just makes it much more complicated.
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So, my workflow should look like this:
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Wake up at 7:29 (One minute before the alarm, because I set it to spotify, it enables shuffle which is hella annoying while driving.)
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Take 5 mg Medikinet to be able to do basically anything, and drive later
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Get ready
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Breakfast
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30 mg Medikinet retarded (Which means it just hits later and longer)
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10 mg Medikinet retarded in the afternoon, because school is til 5 pm
It actually looks like this:
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Wake up at 7:00
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Stand up at 7:45
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Get ready
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5 mg Medikinet
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A quarter of a breakfast, because at that point school starts in ~15 minutes with an 18 minute drive
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30 mg Medikinet
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As I did not have time to get a water bottle ready, no 10 mg Medikinet
But in the end, it doesn’t even matter… because I basically finished school with minimal effort and still got a dual study program
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My problem isn’t really that it’s too low, but that I forget to prepare water and the 5 mg at my bed before sleep. So I should probably do it in the morning, with Medikinet in my system. Because once I take it, it does work very well, and I notice once it goes back down (as long as I actually do something requiring my concentration). Driving without and with is like night and day. And after noon, especially noticeable in exams, everything drops down.
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What do you mean at the same time!?
Oh shit. I forgot to take my pill. Thanks for reminding me.
Huh? You don’t need to take it at the same time. It’ll just impact your sleep if you take it too late. If you have extended release you just have a smaller window of time. Having a structured routine is an important part of tx anyway
I always made it the first thing I did every morning. Get out of bed, pop a vyvanse.
What if getting out of bed is the hard part?
Keep the pills next to the bed, take one, then give yourself permission to lie back down. Eventually your meds will start to kick in and itll be easier to get up.
Yep. Put the pill organizer on top of your phone. Put the water bottle right next to it. The moment you wake up, meds, then phone.
Dont have ahdh, but i do need my routines and i agree with this. Get out of bed, take a glass and take my pills. I will forget otherwise
Reading the comments here makes me overly conscious about choosing my word carefully. Say “cure” instead of “medication” and there goes the point you wanted to make!
Lemmy definitely inherited reddit’s pedantry, lol
Lemmy is reddit 3.0. Early on, Reddit was basically only a website for tech nerds and misfits; atheism and jailbait were some of the most visited subreddits, idpol and divpol weren’t a make-or-break-your-family issue back then but there were still a ton of terminally online furries (yes if you’re a furry you’re weird, but weird is fine, let that freak flag fly.) I’m including myself in the group of outcasts and misfits, and my freak flag flies in weird ways too. I’ve been on Reddit since the default UI was
, although it hadn’t changed much over the years before the redesign. Notice the quality of submissions though - it was a place for the intellectually curious.But you have a large subset of users who use pedantry and grammar nazi`ism as a way to feel powerful when they’re powerless. It’s like picking on those lower than you, when you’re in the bottom of the pecking order.
Those people saw reddit go from their bastion of freedom to the corporate ad-haven it is today and all came here. You also have a lot of younger people with the time to kill and are just trying something new.
and also you have to take it for two weeks before you get any effects and if you miss a day at any time you have to go through this process again
I’ve been on Adderall XR for over a year and I feel the effects within an hour or two and I’ve missed days and it only seems to make that day and maybe the next a bit worse, but not 2 weeks at all.
Which one are you on that does that? Ritalin? Vyvanse?
I believe most non-stimulants are like this. Strattera can take over a month to fully adjust and for the worst side effects to subside.
Strattera gave me stomach issues for 3 months straight and didn’t do shit for my ADHD symptoms. Finally went back to stims afterwards. At least with stims I either forget to eat or am disgusted by the thought of eating, but if I do eat, my stomach doesn’t feel terrible.
Yeah unfortunately it’s not right for everyone but for me personally it is like night and day with giving me back some executive function, working memory, and impulse control. Stims just made me hyperfocus on everything, including vices like social media, without any real motivation to devote that energy to whatever I was putting off. Especially if it wasn’t already right in front of me. I also had to be careful about tolerance cause I didn’t want to just chase a high but I wasn’t feeling productive at all once my body started to adjust to it. I tried to take weekends off but that just meant I wasn’t getting any chores done at home.
Theres only a couple bad side effects for me with strattera on the end of my second month in. The fatigue, which is honestly just a really intensely calm feeling that makes it hard to want to stay upright and awake, and I think that is actually getting better the longer I take it. The nausea when I take it on an empty stomach, though, really messes with my routine and eating habits since I really don’t like to eat first thing in the morning and that seems to be the most effective time to take it.
I’m just kicking myself for not giving non-stims a shot while I was still in college.
I’m glad I tried.
But I’m also doing so much better now and a 15mg Adderall xr does has been working great for 2 years now. I also found a job that follows my passions and I’ve been able to channel the hyper focus and drive to build and keep a schedule for work. The last step is to reintegrate my fitness hobby (cycling) back into my life and I’ll be back to where I was before some asshole manager from my previous job caused a mild panic attack in me and things broke down.
Your thinking of antidepressants.
That’s how you know it’s working.
Aaaaaand sometimes is a “controlled substance” so you have to get a new prescription every month. No 90 day supply, refills, or auto renew. 🥲
