• Thann@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      And stimulants are insanley addictive, terrible for you, and make you go crazy

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        Idk bro I have adhd and have taken stimulants for over 5 years now. These days I take less than when I started, and I sometimes take weeks off by accident. I’m more addicted to caffeine than dexedrine lol.

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        Weird. It’s almost like they have value to society, but need to be responsibly prescribed by licensed physicians. No? You think they’re just always bad for all people…? Okay then…

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        I’d probably get addicted to them if I didn’t have ADHD and didn’t constantly forget they even exist

        Jokes aside, it is an invaluable medication (not a cure) for those that it helps.

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        And non-stimulants are so subtle that they’re not even worth the cost of a visit to the psychiatrist. I don’t understand why they exist when they do nothing for the forgetfulness nor the depression, the two biggest ailments I have that are caused by ADHD.

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          You might just have depression cause strattera works great for me and there is a stark difference in my ability to concentrate and get work done.

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            I thought so too but I already tried every antidepressant under the sun before getting an ADHD diagnosis… Think it might be time for a third opinion.

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              Ever tried psychedelic therapy? I’ve heard of good results with that for people resistant to all other options, when taken under direct supervision and guidance of an experienced therapist. Not a clue how much something like that would cost though.

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        Yep.

        I am addicted to my brain functioning normally and being able to accomplish things

        It is terrible for me that I didn’t get diagnosed sooner.

        It made me go crazy with how big of a difference it has made in my life. I went from sluggish trash goblin hissing at the light to a productive wood elf singing and creating great crafts.

        So, yeah, what you said.

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        **in a non ADHD brain

        Stimulates are not as addictive for people suffering from ADHD because it physically effects us differently. If you have ADHD then you have issues with negatively skewed dopamine responses and stimulates help by inhibiting the reuptake of dopamine causing the dopamaturgic response to seem more powerful than what it is (because again I can’t stress this enough the dopamine response does not function correctly) (source)

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        Not sure why your being downvoted because besides addiction that was 100% my experience. They ruined so much of my formative years.

        I do acknowledge that they can work great for some people, but so does cannabis which improved my quality of life and emotional regulation directly rather then turning me into a docile mindless drone.

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            Maybe its just me but i see no conflict on how both cant be true. “Less likely” == “not”

            I’ve known more then a few people with adhd who snorted their prescription ritalin and abused multiple other drugs on top of it.

            I hated what it did to me to much to get addicted, my experience was definitely that they made me go insane, quit cold turkey the day after my last exam, it took a long time and alot of therapy to feel somewhat like myself again.

            That doesn’t take away that some people are absolutely helped by such medicine and do not experience the same side effects.

            Everyone is different and the same counts for how we respond to any given drug.

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              Oh yeah, to be clear not everyone with ADHD responds well to every stimulant, or stimulants in general. It’s even more complicated if you have a co-morbid condition such as bipolar type II. They can make bipolar symptoms worse, and trigger a manic episodes.

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              Maybe its just me but i see no conflict on how both cant be true. “Less likely” == “not”

              Something that is important to keep in mind for such statements is that scientific research rarely speaks in absolute terms. It takes a lot for something to get to the point of scientific law. Gravity, for example, is still in scientific theory territory. In order for the scientific community to make the statement “people with ADHD cannot become addicted to stimulants”, neurobiology and neurochemistry would need to be better understood than the force that has been officially described in scientific literature for 350 years. If any possible avenue exists to cause addiction, the absolute statement would not be scientifically accurate.