• cheeseburger@lemmy.ca
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    I swear back in the 20th century there were a lot of regular people around the world who would not hesitate to beat the shit out of any Nazi they came across. Where’d they all go?

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Fascism is here.

    All the signs are present.

    Doesn’t matter that it’s America. Fascism can happen anywhere, at any time.

    Purchase a firearm. Learn to use it.

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      I would go so far to say: If you can find classes that train you in how to use the firearm under stress take those. If you have access to training courses that help reinforce those lessons, train there.

      I want to be hopeful that these precautions are unnecessary but at this point this falls under better safe than sorry territory

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    Remember folks you skin the hair off a Nazi from the front to back so you can see the visible anguish and dismay as the pot meets the kettle 🥰❤

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    Just because we do Nazi Salutes and make Nazis feel comfortable DOESNT make us Nazis and makes YOU a Nazi actually!

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    They aren’t Nazis, far from it. Using that kind of hyperbolic language and forced equivalence hinders you from understanding how Trumpism/MAGA actually works. Trumpism has some similarities with fascism, but it’s fully its own extremely American populist personality cult.

    The ideology and policies of the Nazis were on a whole different level.

    Trumpism doesn’t need to be fully fascist, because it managed to gain all branches of government through elections. Trump is actually popular and democratically legitimized.

    If your analysis remains at Nazis! you will never understand how to fight them. It has failed as a political tactic for years. They laugh at it, and rightly so.

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      I feel like this kind of reductive language isn’t helpful. They are nazis in the sense that mstters.

      Nazi has for a while been another word for fascist, or at least a particular brand of it. The Republican party as a whole has slowly been moving in this direction my entire life.

      Trump being too stupid to play the long game managed to build a cult around him by speed running fascism, but there is nothing he stands for that the Republican party hasn’t had a long hystory of standing for.

      People denying the facism is how we got here.

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      Nazi/Fascist are interchangeable because the most recent extreme fascist threat on a large-scale was from Nazis. Whether you like it or not, the two terms are interchangeable in our society.

      The Trump Party has undeniably embraced fascism. It’s acceptable to call them Nazis. They’re running the same playbook the Nazis were at the beginning. They’re PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS.

      Stop trying to distract.

  • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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    They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

    Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

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        Which is common among fascists but if they aren’t looking for the 1000 year reich, the genocide of the underclass, and the creation of the master race they are not Nazis.

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          Pretty clear to me that they do want this in a way. Leaving the poor to die and suffer strikes me as very “genocide of the underclass”

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          Y’all are down voting this but it’s correct. What we have is Sparkling Fascism.

          Dumbasses can’t pronounce fascism though, so most people stick to calling them Nazis. Not the best shorthand but it is what it is.

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      If they aren’t Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?

      If they don’t want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn’t use Nazi salutes.

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          I’m going to be clear here. No one cares that you know some historical detail that, in the end, is irrelevant.

          Due to historical events within living memory Americans view Naziism and Fascism interchangeably. So a sieg heil is a Nazi thing to Americans. So when we see someone performing a sieg heil, they are associated with Nazis.

          No one cares if someone technically did the action with their arm before Nazis. No one cares if the Swastika was technically used by various religions and cultures before the Nazis co-opted it. That’s not what it means to contemporary Americans.

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            This isn’t a historical detail. This is philosophy.

            Americans use liberal incorrectly and as a result most have no clue what the philosophy that defined the nation until a few were s ago actually is.

            There are consequences to not understanding what these things mean and right now America is dealing with the consequences of people who have no idea what fascism is. This is due to that ignorance you are celebrating.

            It does not matter what contemporary Ameticans think. They are a minority of English speakers.

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      Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn’t be eradicated when weakened.

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        It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that’s why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

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          They don’t teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.

          Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.

          It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.

          https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

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            The Military Industrial Congressional complex (Congress was removed from the speech before Ike gave it) was created after fascism was defeated in Europe. I would suggest we had people attempting to instill it since the 1900s but they only just got through.

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              Indeed there have been instances of business trying to do this decades before his speech.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

              As I alluded to we have always been flirting or in recent times outright embracing fascism.

              When you realize we were a country founded by the wealthy for the wealthy you begin to understand why we have these issues.

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          Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.

          • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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            They all do the fascist salute. The Nazis took it from the Italian fascists. If the fascist isn’t German, trying to create a master race (the nazis were not the master race they were supposed to create it), or attempting to institute a 1000 year reich then they are not Nazis.

            Most fascists are not Nazis, that doesn’t make them better.

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              Fascist/Nazi are interchangeable in American culture.

              You’re wasting your time arguing this pointless detail.

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                Cool, Americans don’t get their own definitions for philosophies. It’s frustrating how willing people are to defend this idea that they should.

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                  Why would it matter if we got our own definition? The original Nazis are within living memory. Their symbols are within living memory. So when someone performs those symbols while advocating for many of the same tenets of that ideology, we just call it by the same name.

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              Elon and Trump (nee Drumpf) are both very direct German descendants.

              Elon wants to repopulate a planet with his DNA specifically. Trump wants to fuck his own blonde, white, daughter.

              If it talks like a fascist, is German, and wants its DNA spread around, and then does a Nazi salute, I think it’s time to call a spade a spade, or more accurately, a Nazi.

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                You’re stretching quite hard. Neither man is German. They are fascists not Nazis. We don’t need to be ignorant as to which flavor of fascism we are facing

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              Right, I get what you’re saying. But words and affiliations change over time and can get appropriated by other parties. Neonazis for example. They’re all fascists and I’m positive Elon Musk emulated Hitler, for whatever reason.

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                All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis much like communists are leftists but not all leftists are communists.

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    Some of those articles are opinion pieces lol , wow great sources. Especially the one that compares Trump to Hitler. Definitely no bias there. That one was a far reach.

    All of those articles can be construed as fear mongering as well, the very same thing people accuse right wing media and Republicans of.

    A big tug of war.

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      You don’t believe Musk should be compared to Hitler either. In spite of his rhetoric, pro-fascist propaganda on X, and actually giving a Nazi salute on national television… twice!

      Maybe it’s time to check your own bias. Or go back to X and truth social if you just want an echo chamber.

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        The minds behind the Southern Strategy are the same who helped move conservative Democrat voters over to the Republicans during the 60s and solidified the voters into one of two camps: fascists and the rest. The fascists then used “law and order” and “prosperity over liberty” policy proposals to focus the party. Once Reagan took over and gave the overt cause of “make money at all costs”, it was the carcinogen that fueled antidemocratic ideologues. Imagine there are only a handful of media outlets and Rush Limbaugh is on half of them. It’s been a nightmare plunging into chaos since the early 90s.

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          Then add to it the expansion of the internet and the expectation of everything being free, making advertising revenue become the primary motivator for news companies rather than providing accurate information. Bias has always existed, and headlines have always included hyperbole, but the transition to internet advertising revenue meant insanity is what brought revenue, not reality.

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            Also we put the money guys in charge of companies when previously you kept the finance side away from the journalists so ypu gave the best news.