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    Look, if you live somewhere that the sun makes you regret existence (read: everywhere in 10 years), yard work is getting done in the morning, car work is getting done in the evening.

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    Meanwhile, my wife keeps asking if it would be rude to mow the lawn at 7AM on a Saturday. With the electric mower.

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        Modern electric mowers are actually very quiet, they’re not your parents electric mower that’s for sure lol

        Mine is so quiet not only do I not need to worry about ear protection, you can’t even hear it from inside my own house so def none of the neighbors will be able to hear it either lol

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          What lawn mower do you have that is that quiet??? I have a Ryobi electric push mower that I bought last year and while it’s way quieter than a gas mower I would feel incredibly rude using it early in the morning.

          And noise is different depending on time of day. Ambient noise is a lot lower in off-hours, so your mower would sound louder than it does during the day.

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            I was riding up the street on my bicycle the other day and actually stopped and backtracked to ask my neighbor what kind of mower he was using because I was so impressed at how quiet it was. Turns out it was a Ryobi (one of their brushless 40V models, which might matter).

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            I have a greenworks push mower and I can clearly hear the birds while I’m mowing.

            It’s not the most powerful thing, but it does the job really quietly.

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            Ours merely hums, wouldn’t think the noise would make it through a window unless you were within 10’, and even then, that might not wake a sleeping neighbor.

            The electric weed eater OTOH. Yeah. No.

            (DeWalt BTW. 40V I think? 2 small batteries.)

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              I sincerely hope you never test this theory. I think many people in this thread are severely underestimating how little noise is needed to be disruptive in the early morning.

              My local noise ordinance sets the maximum permissible noise in residential areas during off-hours (10pm - 9am on weekends) at 45 dB. That can be exceeded by 5 dB for 15 minutes, 10 dB for 5 minutes, and 15 dB for 1.5 minutes. Lawnmowers are an exempt source of noise during day hours only. I guarantee if you were my neighbor your mower would be in violation of noise ordinance at night.

              Plus, assume some people are sleeping with their windows open. Especially in mowing weather. Windows open overnight may be the only way they keep their house bearable during hot days.

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      There is no mention of lawns in the post. Is this maybe supposed to be a response in one of the comment threads?

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          Yeah I’m up at 3-4 am every day so I’m waiting for our local ordinance to say it’s okay before I’m being loud. We have quiet hours 10p -7a. There are definitely people who make noise during the quiet hours though. I’m m in the US but I couldn’t care less about my lawn though. Probably some of my neighbors wish I did.

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    Our neighbors decided that it would be a very great idea to start split and saw 350 ft³ of wood at 6am on Saturday morning, until 11am.

    Get out of town, into a rural area they said. It’s much quieter they said. That and the street that runs in front of our house…

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      Hahaha welcome to rural living for sure! Ive had a couple early camping mornings because I didn’t know how close the loggers would be. It’s nice to get started on chores earlier as you can, but I do try to be mindful of gas tools before 8.

      One of my neighbors must be invested in a couple different ammunition companies and trying to inflate their stock the way they shoot. All day Sunday sometimes.

      Trade offs for living in the woods.

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      Literally on my drive home today. Dude was angry that I was actually going 25 mph outside the school, where busses were loading children and sped around me doing like 50 at the first opportunity.

      Then he literally stopped at the next red light, saw I was right behind him, and just ran the red light because his tiny, fragile ego could not handle the fact that he was a grown ass man acting like a petulant child. Which obviously means he needs to break the law more.

      I assume he had shit himself because I cannot imagine any other reason for a grown ass man to behave like this.

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    My neighbor used a leaf blower to dry his car after washing it at 7am on a Saturday. I don’t know that I will ever be able to like that man after this.

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    My neighbors consistently party until about five in the morning with outdoor speakers on the weekends. I’m generally up for the day before they’re done with last night, and I get to enjoy free concerts from their sound system.

    You’re God damned right I’ve zero qualms about firing up the lawn mower as soon as the sun breaks the eastern horizon.

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      Have you tried being a good neighbor and letting them know their loud parties are causing you harm?

      Because otherwise you’re tacitly telling them it’s fine.

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        Have you tried being a good neighbor and letting them know their loud parties are causing you harm?

        Just tried that last week and I will never directly contact people like that again.

        All it got me was an angry neighbor who now turns their shit up louder than it was before as they drive by my house.

        I guess I’ll just resort to fucking with their vehicle in the future.

        You can’t reason with some people.

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        I went over once when they were shooting off commercial grade fireworks on a Wednesday night and feel lucky to have escaped alive. The young bulls got threatening with me until the older guy came out and spoke reason. It’s just a product of where I live.

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        Pro-tip: make an effort to interact with your neighbors *before* this situation so they know you as more than a stuffy Karen.

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      We have neighbours a couple houses down that occasionally like to have people over in their loud echo-ey metal fence+patio back yard and chop their firepit wood every hour or so when they run out, sometimes well after midnight. I do not think they realise how far that sound carries through the night and dont have the foresight to chop during the afternoon beforehand.

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    To be fair, doing my work around the house after worktime at 7PM weekdays is also not going to be very popular.

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    Depends on what time, for me

    After about 10am is pretty fair game if a noisy job needs doing IMO. If it’s music and not obnoxiously loud, that’s probably fine too

    Anyone making any noise before that though absolutely should get in the sea

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      10 am is way too late where I live. It’ll be >90 by then, and that’s a great way to get hear stroke. Most people in my neighborhood are out by 730 working.

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        I guess if everyone on your street is doing the same then it’s not a problem, but it’s worth noting over half the general population will have a chronotype where noise that early will be a negative for their health.

        Making noise between 10am-10pm is apparently the best for everyone

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      There’s no time of day I should be able to hear your music in my own home with all doors and windows closed.

      Car or house work noise tho? I’m cool.

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        I can hear people have a normal conversation on the street from inside my house. The walls are thin enough to let in and out all sound, but thick enough to keep in the heat in winter.

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          I live in a really mild climate and like to keep my windows open all the time. But fuck, I hate the vroom vrooms racing all day and night, and hearing people walking around with bluetooth boomboxes… like, when did that become a thing? headphones and jam friend, jeeeeeze… they don’t even sound good.

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            I don’t mind the music, but I do mind domestic disputes. The house beside mine is a rental and all of the tenants that have been there since I’ve moved in have been the worst. Trashy and constant domestic disputes and leaving their kids and dogs to just roam. I think the latest people got evicted because I haven’t seen them or their dog for a really long time. It’s been nice and quiet since they disappeared and I love it lol.

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    Are you one of those damn night people complaining about us morning people getting on with stuff in the limited time window we have?

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      When I am doing stuff at night I try to be as quiet as possible. The morning people could follow this until 11 am.

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        Depending on location, it’s too freaking hot to be doing yard work anytime past 11 in the summer months. 9 - 11am is usually when I get my shit done.

        Then again, with my neighbors have a similar work schedule to me, so I guess I’m not bothering anyone.

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        But we won’t because 11am is unreasonable. That’s a third of the day wasted.

        You’re not an owl. Go to bed earlier.

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            Hospital workers aren’t the ones making noise late into the night and expecting everyone else to be quiet in the morning so they can have a lie in though, are they?

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          A lot of us work at night. My bed time is 8am. Why exactly do you deserve sleep more than I do just because I’m on a different equally necessary schedule?

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            I’m not suggesting anyone is any more worthy of sleep than anyone else, and yes working a night shift does put you at a massive disadvantage. My wife worked night shifts for a few years, so yeah, I know.

            What I am saying is that (and this is purely a guess) ~90% of the world are awake during daylight hours, and you just can’t expect them to put a hold on everything.

            Personally I try not to do anything outdoors until 9am at the weekend, not because my neighbours work nights, or are night owls, or whatever. Just because I live near people. But at the same time I have kids and things to do.

            But anyone being disruptive in a neighbourhood between 10pm and 8am (let’s say 9am at the weekend) should be punishable by death. And my country doesn’t even have capital punishment.

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              I just don’t understand why it’s necessary to be a nuisance to other people inside their homes at any hour on any day, outside of necessary rare events such as work being done on the house with power tools. I manage to live my life without creating a noise that could conceivably wake someone at any hour of any day more than once a month or two. I view people blasting loud music, letting their dogs bark for hours on end, mowing lawns with deafening machinery, and so on as the equivalent of walking around my house banging pots and pans together. I know you think of it as “necessary” but I assure you that it isn’t. You’re loud because you don’t care about the disturbance you cause people, not because you truly have to be.

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    6:30am “Vrrrrroooooooooooooomm!” for about a minute.

    Silence for 45 seconds.

    “Vrrrooooooooooooom!” for about a minute.

    Repeat for the next 1 1/2 hours.

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    Mindful and considerate, yes. But that doesn’t mean I put my entire day on hold for people that don’t get up until 10 or 11.

    8am is pretty reasonable start to the day for me.

    But I also believe that people bitching and saying no loud noises before 10am are being just as selfish as the people who get up and do yardwork at 6am. If someone has a problem or some extraordinary reasons for wanting it to stay quiet later, they can talk to each other and try to find a compromise.

    And out of 7 days, if you are only being inconvenienced for a couple hours maybe that’s something you should be more tolerant of.

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        Cool. No loud parties after 9pm then? Or is inconveniencing my sleep okay because you do it at night?

        I’ve got one day a week I can do yard work, and only until 9am until it hits over 90° out. Sorry, buddy. But you might have to deal with some noise. Wish we could all live in perfect harmony. But until then you have to deal with some shit you don’t like and I have to deal with some shit I don’t like and we’ll do our best to not inconvenience each other too bad.

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          You can’t do the yard work at 6pm instead? If your neighbors are having loud parties every week then yes you should talk to them and say it’s affecting your sleep, and if they don’t listen report them. My neighbors came over and said they would be playing music past 10pm and if that would be okay. Not being noisy when your neighbors might be asleep (even if it’s a big inconvenience) is just being considerate. If your neighbors are being noisy and you have no recourse then that’s a obviously different.

          Also, get a sun hat and a handheld fan, take breaks, unless it’s a literal heatwave then you can manage (source: have done yard work at noon during a heat wave)

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          32c is nothing, and if the temps get high enough to stop work the plants are in survival stasis and you don’t need to do yard work

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          You can join the loud party and have fun I can’t join you cutting your own grass and I wouldn’t have fun anyway…

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            Lol as if cutting my lawn is fun. Or that I’d even want to join your party.

            It’s hypocritical to think that your loud noise when Im trying to sleep is okay but my loud noise when you are trying to sleep isn’t.

            But this is life living with other people that don’t sleep the same hours as you. Sometimes shit is going to inconvenience you, and I’ll do what I can to minimize it. But I’ve got shit I need to get done too and I’m just not going to not do it because it might suck for someone for an hour of their week.

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              Would you prefer to remain in bed covering your ears ? I’m not saying you shouldnt cut the grass I’m saying you could cut it later during the day … After 5 pm for example the sun isn’t hot anymore and you won’t wake the whole neighborhood up at 8 on a Sunday morning, probably the only day a standard worker could sleep in peace… Yes it sounds hypocritical but as I have said you can cut the grass in the afternoon but you can’t throw parties in the morning just because the night is intrinsic to parting … Everyone has shit to get done and this shouldnt be used as an excuse if we don’t ever stop to think about others we would never find a way to live together without fighting…

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          Yes, literally the noise ordinance where I am says no gas mowers/trimmers/blowers before 9am and no music which crosses property lines after 10pm. This is not complicated.

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      Ahh fack off. It costs you nothing to wait until 10 to fire up noisemakers

      8am is pretty reasonable start to the day for me.

      Almost your entire neighborhood is populated with people who are not you. Why do you get preference?

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      And out of 7 days, if you are only being >inconvenienced for a couple hours maybe that’s >something you should be more tolerant of.

      Out of 7 days these are the only two days most people can sleep past 8 and some people like sleeping. It is no different than consistently throwing late night parties during weekdays when most people have to wake up early the next day. There is a generally acceptable universal range which is no loud noises between 10pm to 9am. If you are the person who needs to make noise (such as the occasional party or repairs that need to start early etc) then it’s you who should go and tell/ask the neighbours about it, not the neighbours who should come and convince you to reduce noise.