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    The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.

    I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren’t going to pay him and use the free version, which you’re welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)

    You’re just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.

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      The major issue for some is regional pricing. Where I’m from lifetime costs around $110 in regional currency

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        He was implementing regional pricing this morning and looks like that should be happening today and tomorrow. I think that’s part of the reason so many people love Sync since the dev is ultra responsive.

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        As far as I’ve read, that price is for both no ads and Ultra which I guess gives you more perks). For just no ads it is significantly less. For no ads in my version it’s $30CAD, which is a high price but is much much less than $100+CAD

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        No, that’s lifetime ultra. A totally different thing, if you feel you need to pay more for a few extra features. You can also pay $20 to remove ads for a lifetime.

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      Someone correct me but IIRC the Reddit Is Fun paid version costed way less that 20$.

      I hope they release Lemmy Is Fun or something.

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        The RIF dev ended up going with some non-federated reddit alternative. I get it, probably a much less flooded market (we already have so many options for Lemmy). But a bummer nonetheless.

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        The RIF dev recently released an alpha for his Tildes app, Three Cheers for Tildes. It’s in an earlier state than Sync but already quite usable.

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      ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

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        its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

        Do you think professional independent developers shouldn’t be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

        I don’t understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It’s a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

        This isn’t some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can’t make an app if you can’t buy food or pay rent.

        And if you don’t like that, then don’t use it. He’s never pressured users into paying, and he’s never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn’t even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

        Why is everyone so upset?

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          I’m not the one who’s upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I’m literally not using the app and it’s not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I’m literally just saying I’m not a cheapskate because I’m not using your paid alternative.

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            No one is calling you a cheapskate. It’s just that when you said this:

            its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

            …in context, it comes off as “Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him.”

            I understand what you mean now, but you worded it terribly.

            And by the way, going around in the comments being unnecessarily hostile and calling people “dumbfuck” or “asshole,” when they were just as confused at your poor phrasing, makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

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          Why is everyone so upset?

          You know why, it’s because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

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            Sync isn’t trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it’s trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

            People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

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          It’s the reason lemmy is struggling, it’s mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

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              No. Elitists are the ones who are elitists. They just chose FOSS as their high horse to be holier than though. To beat the vegan horse I’m going to use Linux users as an example.

              Anytime anyone irl talks about Linux it’s not really about how great Linux has met their needs. It’s usually about how great it is that it isn’t windows.

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        Complaining about a $20 purchase you don’t have to make qualifies for “cheapskate” I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

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          I think the point of this post was the lack of regional pricing, so for them it is not a $20 purchase.

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      He doesn’t deserve any reward for making spyware/adware garbage. His app is at odds with the ethos of lemmy. Fuck your ad hominem.

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          You can maneuver all you want, it is spyware. My hobby work is free. I don’t track my users nor do I inundate them with ads. I believe that’s unethical.

          My work work is not available for free in any capacity whatsoever.

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            Good job you’re not using an android phone so it doesn’t matter!

            It’s his full time job, so his "work work " isn’t free in any capacity either, you either pay with ad revenue or you pay with $20

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              He chose to go down that path. No one forced him. It’s a brain dead argument mate.

              Oh and btw, it is free in some capacity. You do not have to pay to use the free version. It’s literally called the fucking free version.

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                The free version with ads that pay the developer that everyone’s losing their minds over like they’ve never seen an advert before.

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                  Rightfully so, because it tracks you, collects and sells your data and inundates you with ads, which is literally every single fucking thing lemmy was built to get around.

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          @drekly @Plswrk, nobody needs to work for free, but creating incommings by spying the user to sell his data to third party isn’t an acceptable way to gain money. There are a lot of methodes to gain money in the network, but with surveillance advertising spyware is the worse and with big risks for the user, which can’t control where his personal data ends up.

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              @drekly, simple ads are not a problem, if they are based on the content of the page and not based on user logs. Ads as is only can be somewhat annoying if there a lot in the page or they appears in the middle of a concert in YT, but no are a risk for the user privacy, no more than a commercial poster in the street or an ad in TV. As with all, bad the abuse. Years ago you saw 1-2 banners in a page, but novadays you must seek the webcontent between advertisings, banners, cookieadvices and popups

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                  @drekly, no ok, blocking trackers is legit selfdefense, but also the abuse of ads, blocking these also is needed. Only it isn’t a problem when a web shows an banner image or two, this can be tolerated, but not the abuse of ads currently and annoying popups, it is legit to block this crap.

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      Actually you’d be surprised how much ads can pull in. In a well optimized site you can make around $5 per user per month

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      You got the money, you do you. His hardwork have nothing to do with how much i’m willing to pay lol, the end result is what i pay for, and it’s not worth the price to me.

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    All the self righteousness of lemmy is strange.

    There’s not just better opinions, even small decisions are morally imbued and if someone steps out of line…

    Wait, does using sync cause hurricanes? Earthquakes? Will the four big ponies of the lempocalypse arrive and snort angrily?

    Otherwise, I get that a surge of people elated they have something you don’t/can’t have is off putting. FOMO is real.

    But it doesn’t need all the meme-shade.

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      I think this is just a reaction to the massive amount of hype we all saw yesterday.

      It’s a good app, but it’s expensive, potentially collects your data and shares it with advertisers, and it’s closed source. That’s the facts of the matter so far as I can tell…

      The are pros and cons here, obviously, but it’s neither objectively positive or negative. With the pricetag comes unique features, like being able to tag people with notes. That’s neat!

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        Apt name.

        My post had 3 downvotes (meh), so I’m taking that to mean it made sense.

        What part of it didn’t make sense to you? The part where I indicate you’re playing innocent while throwing shade? People can see your post history.

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          Yeah, but people aren’t as creepy as you, crawling around others post history and posting irrelevant reply.

          Ohh and i don’t care about downvote, this isn’t reddit anymore, time to grow up. So what if i’m throwing shade? The app isn’t worth the price, it’s too expensive, i talk about it, so what?

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            Why is looking at someone’s post history creepy? That’s something somebody would say who’s worried about their previous posts

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            Cool story bro then dont buy it. I think it is worth it and bought a lifetime sub.

            If you like other apps or want to use a free app or an open source app then more power to you. But throwing Sade on an app that someone bent over backwards to make for lemmy in a short amount of time for no other reason than because you are being entitled come off as dick ish to say the least.

            He worked hard on the app. And the community asked him to do it and he made it in short order and needs to live off it. You dont like it or think its to expensive then That’s cool dont buy it. But going out of your way to slag it… fuck that.

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              Apparently saying an app is expensive and i’d rather have the alternative one is considered dick-ish.

              Lj is cool in my book, i don’t agree with the price, but man the fanboi surrounding him and blow smoke up his ass is truly special one.

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              HAHAHHAHA

              Great joke, but okay. “Wat” because your original comment is so out of touch and so one-sided.

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                I haven’t seen 1 person tell someone that they should get Sync and act like it’s a moral obligation to do that one thing.

                I’ve seen people say they’ve felt that they felt happy or obliged to support the dev, but that’s not the same.

                What I have seen on Lemmy, repeatedly, is stunted little “adults” waltzing around moralizing about things that they feel they should feel about.

                It’s like watching left leaning fundies worry about “the wrong gender” using a restroom. It’s just not something worth spending hours telling people they’re doing it wrong.

                It is, however, worth telling the arbitrary gatekeepers that they’re not going to be successful.

                To return to point: I’m not hung up on downvotes, but they are an objective metric. That comment of mine got 3 downvotes. 3. That’s not in anyway indicative of a lack of cogency or being in left field.

                Bro, you make lemmy look like the average IQ can only go up. As can the discourse.

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                  I haven’t seen 1 person tell someone that they should get Sync and act like it’s a moral obligation to do that one thing.

                  You sure?

                  What I have seen on Lemmy, repeatedly, is stunted little “adults” waltzing around moralizing about things that they feel they should feel about.

                  I sure doesn’t see anyone moralizing this stuff. If calling stuff expensive with no regional pricing is “moralizing” the thing, then ohh boy i feels like your last line is actually talking about yourself.

                  In fact i feels like your whole talking point can be apply to yourself lol.

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      Voyager just started their TestFlight app version a few days ago and it’s really great (on iOS.) It added haptic feedback which is very nice, and fixes the freezing issue. Otherwise it’s identical, I think. I’d guess there will be an android app sometime.

      I’m also testing Memmy and using Mlem - both are coming along great, but Voyager app version is the cleanest and my favorite atm.

      Looking forward to trying Sync when it comes to iOS. Never tried it for Reddit - only used Apollo.

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        Looking forward to trying Sync when it comes to iOS

        I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not…

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          I was just trying to be nice to the dev and fans tbh. I went straight to Apollo when the official app started burning up my phone years ago and never looked back, or at other apps. I had no idea Sync was never on iOS. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But if it ever is, I’d try it.

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          There was an iOS version of Sync, but it was on TestFlight for years with no actual release. It was also developed by a different person.

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            Yeah, it’s not the same. That seems just like plain stealing at that point. LJ wouldn’t do something like that after spending a decade or more working on sync.

            Correction: Sync for iOS was created by the dev’s friend.

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        Voyager is indeed great, especially now that it has a native version.

        However, I’d be really surprised if an iOS version of Sync for Lemmy came out. The Reddit version was developed for iOS by a different person and was in a preliminary stage for years. A production-ready release never actually came out.

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        I wish they also provided a way to disable haptic feedback. It’s annoying when I’m up late upvoting dank memes while my wife is sleeping

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          I think it’s very noble of you to upvote dank memes. You can show this comment to your wife: Fluxion is awesome and deserves to upvote dank memes whenever they please. This is the way.

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        So you can confirm the swipe back freezing issue is resolved on the iOS app? I’ve seen people say it’s still there.

        If it is resolved, I am very excited to use it!

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          It’s technically still there, but it resolves immediately when you lift your finger now.

          In my experience: In the PWA it consistently required lifting your finger and waiting for 1-2 seconds before attempting to scroll again. If you didn’t “not touch it” for 1-2 seconds, it would stay frozen indefinitely when trying to scroll up or down. This sometimes felt like an eternity for an otherwise very responsive experience.

          In the TestFlight app, that 1-2 seconds is down to maybe .2 seconds or less. It’s nearly imperceptible - enough so that it feels like it’s fixed. But if you do use it in such a way that you encounter a freeze, you just lift your finger and immediately try again. There’s no additional waiting - just lift and continue.

          So it feels fixed to me and I rarely freeze in the first place, but maybe the underlying problem still exists.

          IOW: It’s as if an invisible overlay blocks your interactions after swiping back to the feed. That invisible overlay is now removed almost instantly instead of after 1-2 seconds. But if you try to scroll too quickly after swiping back, you might catch it while your finger is down. In that case, you can now lift and immediately continue. It’s consistent enough and minor enough that it could be played off as a feature that prevents you from accidentally scrolling after swiping back.

          I haven’t personally experienced any bugs that would hold it back from an App Store release, so hopefully you’ll get it to try it for yourself soon.

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        How can I get it on Testflight? I am using Mlem currently and tried Memmy a bit. For now I look at Mlem as my Lemmy-app, because the comments are well formatted compared to Memmy, but Memmy is Open Source and has definetly the the better Icon. Yes, such things are important for me, too.

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      Voyager has an app that respects navigation panes, UI refreshes and haptic system gestures now, so all those “but it doesn’t FEEL native” complaints have been put to the ground to begin with.

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      Yeah i’m using pwa, and currently testing Thunder, liking it so far. Still not a good replacement if i want to do mod/admin work.

      Will totally buy Sync ultra despite the bitching, but until it has mod tools and community browsing, amongst a list of missing feature found in the web app, i can’t justify the spending.

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        Are you sure it’s legit? From a quick look at the official GitHub repo’s README, I saw no mention of a native Android app (however I did see mention of the iOS app).

        EDIT: dug a little deeper and saw mention of the Android app in the latest release notes (beta coming soon to the play store) as well as an empty Android studio project folder in the source. Maybe the actual code is somewhere on a different branch, but even so, I would be hesitant to install random APKs not coming from the developer themself.

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      The instance I’m on has a beta of an interface called “photon” that looks very similar to Sync’s cards view.

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        It’s fast and it’s about as native as most apps get nowadays. Kotlin on Android or Swift on iOS still run in virtual machines with GC not unlike Javascript. Nobody writes apps in C++ either. Maybe one day we will do it in Rust when there’s ever a good mobile GUI framework.

        Also by fast I do mean fast. Much better than any other PWA or website I’ve ever used and on par with good native apps. There do be some bugs, I’ve run into two and they’re a bit annoying, but I’m sure they’ll be fixed soon enough. The dev is super active and it’s open source so anyone can contribute.

        Much of the time you can’t really tell it’s not Apollo and that was the best reddit app hands down.

        I do have a recent iPhone though. Maybe an older or lower end phone won’t be as fast. But even so, I would still recommend trying it.

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          Your argument for "as native as most apps” falls apart pretty quickly though.

          I’m not saying it’s a bad app. I’m just saying it’s a badly made app, because JavaScript was a joke 30 years ago, it’s a joke today. (ThePrimeagen)

          Most apps aren’t native, so being “as native” as the baseline average or better isn’t even saying much at all. They’re all using V8, and I’m slightly less disgruntled if they use something like React Native or whatever instead of Vue and virtual DOM stuff. This was brief but you get the idea.

          Also, Xamarin and Flutter/Skia do exist.

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            React native, Xamarin, Flutter aren’t REALLY native either. Neither are, like I said, the main languages either mobile platform’s owner wants you to use.

            Mobile apps are rarely native for real these days.

            Voyager uses React so it uses the Virtual DOM much like Vue (which often tends to be faster) or React Native. I can’t see how using React Native instead of React like you suggested is all that much better. It’s all the same shit.

            You want native, there’s Dioxus for Rust or I guess QT for C++. Those will compile into actual binaries rather than some sort of bytecode running in an interpreter. But these take much more time to write complex apps in and in a world where we want all our apps to be free, they’re hard to justify.

            It’s interesting you quote ThePrimeagen about Javascript, because it’s literally the main language he uses/used at Netflix and he often says it’s not a bad language. He’s got a workshop on Javascript coming in November.

            I hate the language as much as any and have avoided using it professionally, but your arguments are pretty weak. Modern Javascript engines are ridiculously fast, which is why a WELL MADE web app can be much faster than a shoddily made “native” app.

            Edit: It’s now available on the app store, making it native by your definition. Which is to say it has direct access to some system APIs, but it still renders a vDOM like any other react native app.

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    Just paying a visit to lemmy because Sync is out, and all I’ve seen is this. Lemmy is just another reddit, isn’t it? People here are no better like what they believe themselves to be, still the same everywhere.

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      I’ll have you know real Lemmy users don’t use any app, we tap HTTPS requests in binary directly onto an Ethernet cable, computing the TLS handshake mentally.

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      Yep, it’s literally just another Reddit. The main benefit is that it’s decentralized so it’s not under the control of a single corporation, but yeah, it’s mainly ex redditors on a service designed to be an alternative to Reddit

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      Its not about the app for me (although the clean interface is appreciated) just the users it’ll bring with it. I like the ratio of tech literate people on Lemmy but more users means more abundant niche communities, and that was the best part of reddit for me

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      This probably speaks a bit to the fact that reddit in itself was nothing special, and the people were making it what that is and what it ain’t was before it could be.

      People moved here, so we’re seeing that here now. Reddit was a loss in the same way your favourite pub closing down was - ye had to find a new place.

      Now, erm, clears throat… This is the way.

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      Yeah the majority of people, like myself, came here after leaving reddit so it’s not surprising. Some instances are already speed-running the censorship and mod abuse too. The lemmy.world admins decided to pre-emptively defederate from another instance purely based on the admins own ideological stance. Can’t possibly stand the thought of having people that have different political views than you being able to share those views, oh no. Gotta shut that down before it even starts. And remember - these are the people that call the other people fascists.

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        thing is, defederating doesn’t silence anyone. the info is still there, anyone can access it or contribute to it, and plenty of other instances are still federated with them. it’s not censorship, it’s just choosing who you carry water for.

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        Lemmy looks more and more like reddit everyday. It was nice while it lasted, but confidently incorrect jerks like you who don’t even get the point of decentralised platforms are going to ruin it.

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      Lemmy is in fact just another link aggregator, albeit a better one, and the app build for it is trying too hard to be reddit, with no feature that’s closer to lemmy than reddit. So yes lemmy is reddit.

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    I’m just happy we have all of these choices.

    The FOSS apps are fantastic already and Sync is there if you want that too.

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    Not a big fan of the price, but it’s free to use if you want and the app is amazingly smooth.

    Also, if you decide to use this app for many years, the one time payment isn’t that bad at all.

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        The $20 one-time fee is to remove ads from the “standard” app.

        The subscription pricing is for Sync Ultra, which has Cloud backup for settings and some more advanced features in addition to no ads.

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        There’s a one time $20 fee to remove ads. There’s also a thing for increased functionality that’s separate and includes removing ads using a monthly or an annual subscription option, and there’s also a lifetime option. I opted for the lifetime one at $100 because I figure I’ll be using it for a few years, I’m happy to support the dev, and I really want all the bells and whistles.

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          For whatever reason I can’t find the 20 option to remove ads. Any chance you can point me to it?

          Edit: nvm, just had to update the app.

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            At this point there are multiple updates per day during the beta period. I expect that will settle down once things stabilize, but for now it’s definitely prudent to keep checking for updates.

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          More power to you if that’s how you feel, but I can’t imagine paying $100 for a mobile app. I won’t even pay $100 for a video game that I will put a thousand hours into, let alone an app to read content from a site.

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        There’s a one time payment for ad free. The subscription is for ultra which is ad free plus a bunch of power user type shit that I don’t personally have a use for.

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      but it’s free to use if you want

      If you’re ok seeing ads on a platform that doesn’t have ads.

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    I don’t understand the people hating on Sync just as much as I don’t understand the people hating posts criticizing sync.

    It’s an app. Let people use what they want to use lmao. Growth for Lemmy is a good thing regardless

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    I never see Liftoff recommended in these kinds of threads. It’s my favourite app so far out of Thunder, Connect, and Jerboa.

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      God forbid you have to can pay for stuff if you want.

      It’s a third party app. One of many. With an optional purchase to support the dev. Honestly…

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        With an optional purchase to support the dev.

        You mean the schuckster trying to make a buck using another free API after the last one booted him out? Guy’s a slimeball.

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          A slimeball for having an optional charge for a product they have made and have input their own time and skills into?

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          Don’t forget that he added ads into the app for a platform that doesn’t have ads and then is selling the option to remove them.

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            Exactly. That’s his m.o., find a free content farm and charge people to access it. And yet people eat it up, which is insane.

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              It’s blowing my mind that people on here are happy to throw $100+ at a mobile app to access a free website that has multiple free and very good apps, especially when the app they’re paying for is inserting ads into the experience to make people pay to remove the ads.

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      $20 one time for a well developed app that I use multiple hours a day is inexpensive.

      I pay almost as much to multiple streaming services PER MONTH for a shitty experience and sometimes not a completely ad-free experience.

      Anyway, in all honesty I chose the $1.99/mo because it gives the dev $24/yr into perpetuity. I also donate to instances. I also use Connect and Jerboa and Liftoff. It’s whatever.

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      I doubt anyone who says this has donated to their Lemmy instance.

      The truth is, humans try to justify their purchases. You didn’t want to pau for Sync, you would have happily used it for free.

      You want to feel good for having paid for Sync.

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        I pay for Sync and Telegram. Telegram doesn’t even have ads, I just want to throw money at the things that provide me entertainment and value on a daily basis. Just because you don’t like to pay for things doesn’t mean you should project that mindset onto other people.

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        I paid for sync for Reddit, I donated to my Lemmy instance and I’ll pay for Sync for Lemmy once I decide for myself whether I take the subscription, simply ad free or one time payment for ultra. As there’s still fixes to the pricing going on I’ll wait out for that

        I guess I’m biased with paying for software since I work at a company that makes software it also offers in its’ own SaaS platform. I literally maintain the infrastructure so I’m intimately familiar with those costs. I appreciate anyone who offers software and service for free. But there’s always a cost and if you want premium service you’ll need to pay for it.

        That is ofcourse another justification and easy one since paying for sync is almost nothing to me. I do hope the free Sync keeps being a good alternative for anyone who wants to try it.

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        I don’t want to feel good. I DO feel good. The truth is there would be no need to justify anything were it not for all the FOSS zealots throwing shade instead of just minding their business. Stop worrying about whether we feel good, and start thinking about why you want others to feel bad.

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      God forbid you have to pay for stuff.

      But reddit asking to be paid for use of their API was the end of the world for these devs lol

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        No, reddit demanded ludicrously high fees at barely 30 days notice. It gave nobody any time at all to figure out alternative monetization strategies. Many of the third party apps had expressed their willingness to pay, but that was just absurd

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          Most of these apps had subscriptions already in place. All they had to do was remove the free access and maybe increase the subscription price a bit to $5/month (I’m not sure what they were charging before).

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    Sync is free.

    There is a paid version sure. But the free version is still excellent.

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      Honestly, it’s so strange this never comes up - yes there are ads but a man’s gotta eat. The ads aren’t particularly intrusive so the free version is a fine sacrifice for those of us who are happy enough with the base functionality of sync and can deal with the minor annoyance of an occasional ad.

      I’d prefer to purchase the ad-free version, but the pricing is a bit excessive for me right now - I can wait it out until there’s a sale or other discount in the meantime.

      If that’s a dealbreaker, all the other Lemmy clients are available to use instead - I’ve used them all and they’re all excellent.

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      Also, somewhere between my pi-hole and various DNS tweakings the ads in the free version seem to be getting eaten anyway.

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    I’ll repeat what I said in several other threads at this point:

    I loved the old app, I still love the new app, it’s a pleasure to use compared to the alternatives I’ve tried, and I find the ultra subscription rate both reasonable and worthwhile to support a product I truly enjoy.

    Sync is good for me. There’s plenty of other options if it’s not good for you.

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    I’m using it right now. Working just fine so far, exactly the same as the reddit version, and I haven’t been asked to pay $20 for it.