• Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.worldOP
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    Reminder that if the media is cool with putting the victim’s name all over, then you should be cool with the officer’s name all over.

    Innocent until proven guilty am I right?

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    There are a lot of things I hate about the Bible as an atheist, but one thing I really wish would be implemented is a double measured punishment for positions of authority. Every crime a police officer is found guilty of should be doubled, every time and without exception. They should always be aware of the fact that if they screw up it will be a much bigger deal for them.

    What do you expect in DeSatan’s state.

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      There’s a lot of fucking sense in the bible sometimes, in a lot of cases the problem is it’s good fucking sense for a tribe of nomadic folk 2500 years ago and then it’s been filtered through various cults rewriting and reinterpreting it to suit their needs and viewpoints in the intervening time. The US constitution seems to be on the same sort of track.

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      Fuck the bible but this is already a thing in the military and it should be a thing in the police too since they are just the occupying military

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        Which is why the state never will.

        You can though; like the panthers, but learn the lesson from their failure: don’t get seen.

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      Is that double punishment thing in the bible? I couldn’t agree more. It’s the most heinous type of crime imo.

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      Too bad we’re headed in the exact opposite direction…

      Conservatives like my father are being brainwashed to believe the cops have TOO MANY restrictions to “properly do their jobs.”

      They literally want LESS accountability for police… It’s absolutely absurd and because of that I’m pretty sure that’s what we’ll end up with. We don’t get to have nice things in this timeline.

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        And rules of engagement while we’re at it.

        How is it that a soldier sent into literal combat against people he knows are armed and intend to kill them has to be more careful not to shoot someone than a police officer responding to a call about a black person using the sidewalk?

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          I was deployed, and our rules of engagement was more strict than police officers. We had to keep it on us at all times (exception being for PT and shower time). There were very specific situations about when and where we could use our weapons.

          What is ridiculous is “I was a scared little bitch” was not a reason to use force. Police can get away with killing civilians, unarmed civilians, because “I was scared”. If we did that, our ass would be in Leavenworth. Cops are fucking pathetic.

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          A soldier who everyone knows was ordered ‘shoot to kill’, and people think its weird when they’re not.

          They even get multiple months of training!

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        Nah. They need the wall. They fought basic accountability too hard, clearly its not gonna happen. Accept that and move on to a more realistic solution.

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      Idk I mean it would be fine if the consequences that everyone else has to face they have to too.

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    I hope Mr. Riley is found not guilty. And that all three officers who participated in this dangerous fraud are charged and punished appropriately. Mr. Riley deserves compensation for harm done. Tallahassee, you can do better. smh.

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      Don’t worry. Internal affairs with complete an investigation and find that the officers not only did nothing wrong but are being commended and recommended for promotion!

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      How about we compromise. No punishment for the officers, and Mr Riley gets 12 months in jail, but he gets out 3 months early if he admits he was wrong and promised not to sue.

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      Unfortunately that compensation will come from florida taxpayers instead of the criminal cops themselves.

      Nothing will change until the cops have to pay their own damages.

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        I hope for justice, and equality under the law. Are we there? No. And my activism focuses on what we need, deserve, and want. Why do you not? Do you advocate apathy? Do you have another suggestion?

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          Laws aren’t for justice. I think if they’re ever in the same room, justice never showed up and the wall has some new stains.

          Even if you don’t believe this, a system so thoroughly, from its original seed to every major input its had,made from injustice and tyranny for injustice and tyranny, is not going to provide you with justice.

          You need to start fresh from the ground up. Maybe its possible to create a mostly-just system of laws; i don’t think it is, but I’m down to be proven wrong. I do know its impossible to salvage the ones we have, and if you wanted to make a serious attempt, you’d start from scratch.

          I think we use laws because they’re a tool for exercising power, and we, growing up in strict hierarchalist societies, confuse power with justice. They’re opposites. Laws are a tool for systematizing and flattening morality so its legible to a top down hierarchy that doesn’t have time/bandwidth to fully pay attention, and a tool to divide a populace so you can justify picking out people you find inconvenient, or increasing power exercised against the people.

          I think you find justice where laws don’t excuse people from thought compassion and consideration, put anyone above anyone else, or justify doing awful shit, and I think a lot of the work towards justice and equality is going to be emotionally messy and unpleasant til we get there.

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    When you know there will be no consequences, it’s easier to be blatant with your corruption. The officer should be fired, arrested for falsifying official documents, and the chief of police should be fired.

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    Cops: " THE PUBLIC IS SO HOSTILE TO US, WE CANT COMPREHEND WHY THEY HATE US NOBLE SAVIORS OF JUSTICE SO MUCH!"

    Also Cops:" I’ll just casually destroy this persons property and frame them for a crime to fill my quota, and maybe…if he gets upset over it, I’ll have an excuse to murder him! teehee! "

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    Do to the video evidence, I give the jury a 50/50 chance of convicting, far higher than normal!

    ACAB

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    Whatever happened to “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear?”… This happened, fucking corrupt cops

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    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2024/04/04/tallahassee-police-chief-slams-release-of-edited-dui-video-before-trial/73208195007/

    Lol Tallahassee PD is going full “shoot the messenger and the messenger’s dog” about this. Blithering on about how releasing the video is wrong and now the dude they tried to frame can’t get a fair trial because people saw the video, which they were totally gonna show after the trial (trust me, bro. bro you gotta trust me. we can’t have people knowing what happened until after he’s found guilty and we get to take a bunch of his money by force.) but now everyone is gonna be prejudiced in favor of the defendant which violates his rights and that part of the video where she clearly opens a sealed container, dumps it out, throws it back into the car and then arrests him for open container was taken out of context.

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        99% of people charged with DWI, plead guilty or may settle down for a lesser charge. Fighting a case like that is a lot of money ($5k-$10k), your average citizen probably doesn’t have a emergency fund. It’s horrible, and not only that, the cop who charges the person with a DWI gets a nice bonus at the end of the year. You can’t assure yourself that you’ll be in the clear if you’re sober; they might have insiders who mess around with your test results and make it look like you had alcohol/drugs in your system.

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      I thought this is what body cams were for, or was it just for watching with your buddies during weekends while eating popcorn

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        body cams are for police highlight reels and for taking clips of their murders home to masturbate furiously too. Not for the public good, or justice.

        Which is why it often takes years to weasel the fucking video out of their hands when it shows them doing wrong (and yet the videos are almost always immediately released when they think they are in the right…), like with that abduction victim teenage girl a few years ago who the police blasted the fuck out, from behind, despite her following all instructions.

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        That’s what the police think surveillance video is for, at least. When they’re done assaulting innocent old women with dementia they sit around with their buddies, watch the video and laugh and laugh. I assumed that when the officer said “wait for the pop” he was talking about the audible sound of him breaking this 73 year old dementia patient’s arm over $13 in goods from Walmart, but the way they’re gathered around the screen celebrating the assault, maybe he did mean popcorn.

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      "By showing the video where our corrupt officer destroyed property and framed a man, you have ruined our attempt to imprison an innocent man who didnt deserve it.

      How dare you, public, for foisting this terrible injustice upon all of law enforcement!"

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    Straight up psychotic. She should get exactly whatever the max sentencing is that he would have gotten.

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      I’ll settle for her being fired and charged with making up evidence. Let her name be entered into a national + open database of people whose words are worthless.

      I’m more interested in the taxpayers compensating Riley for as much as possible, and maybe asking for higher quality police officers who can do their jobs. You know, the fiscally responsible path…

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      Double the sentence she tried to frame him for in addition to the max for any and all other crimes she may have committed, and knowingly arresting someone based on false evidence needs to be charged federally as kidnapping because that’s what it is.

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    What pieces of shit, also, she’s dumb as fuck for clearly doing something illegal knowing she was wearing a bodycam.

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      Bodycams should not have a way to turn them off on the field, there’s no legitimate reason to, some states even allow it but require a 10 second timer

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        Honestly, why they don’t constantly run but have button as a marker for “I have to take a bathroom break” and not review that footage unless something happened that requires review during that time period is beyond me.

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          Because those very same cops also have access to evidence. And within days every single female officer’s bathroom pics will be in the text messages of every male officer.

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        Or if you wanted to pretend the court system was real; presumption of pig guilt for anything off camera.

        But that will never happen. Accountability will come from you, or it will come from nobody.

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        If the camera is off they are no longer a cop until it is back on. That needs to be the rule. Then if they cannot provide footage a lot of civil lawsuits will be able to get past QI bullshit at least.

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    What kind of chimpanzee plants evidence, while wearing the camera that will later be used in court?

    As a European, I can only apologise. We clearly did not send our brightest and best all those years ago…

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      It’s almost certainly complacency on her part. She’s probably done this an innumerable amount of times. At first I’m sure she was very careful in covering her tracks. She’s just gotten away with it so many times now that she stopped caring about whether or not it was easy to catch her in the act. Probably figured there was very little chance anyone would see the footage. ACAB

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    I want to live out the balance of my life solely fueled by the flesh of these despicable subhumans. Maybe get them into some factory farming conditions? I prefer my badge-pig walnut finished unless a longer more painful option is available. It’s not that i don’t like them…😉

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      No. Pbts aren’t even evidence as they’re a presumptive test. They do not need to offer not do you need to submit to anyone but the intoxilyzer at the station or a blood draw from a qualified phlebotomist. Anything outside of those two things is presumptive and is not evidence only the testimony from it is supporting first party evidence and yes that including fst’s like the walk and turn or hgn.

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        How are those not evidence but a guy sitting next to liquor somehow is?

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          Its not, the officers testimony about what they saw/smelled however is. Imo officers testimony is too weighty at the moment and should count for less but it is what it is.

          She also fucked up bad by saying it smelled like “alcohol” alcohol is colorless and odorless, she should get slightly more descriptive like a sweet alcohol smell which could be schnapps, brandy etc but alcohol itself cannot be discerned from legal to illegal.

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        It should be noted that refusal of a breathalyzer in the US has consequences that depend on the state. Refusal will get you an automatic six month license suspension and $500 fine in many.

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          The breathalyzer (intoxilyzer) yes, correct. The roadside pbt (presumptive breath test) is not, only the testimony from the officer is.