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    Can’t wait until all these losers finally realize trump is done and crawl back into the shadows

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      As an imminent Harris/Walz voter, this comment shocks me. It’s 2016 all over again and I’m realizing people are living in a Hillary bubble. Acting like this shit is in the bag. It is SO NOT IN THE BAG. Not even fucking close.

      Now I’m not going to spam a bunch of voting links and opine on how it’s up to you to make a difference and make it so. M

      This bubble is serious and I’m very afraid of what kind of reality is going to be crashing around all around this country and the world when an also shocked Trump sees the results roll in election night and he is now the new King of America (in his eyes). “They really do love me. God has chosen me. I am supreme.”

      You fools. You don’t realize that this is so within the margin of error it’s a totally real and near possibility.

      Trump is not done until it’s done.

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      When they realize he is done, there will be a battle for the position of his successor, so don’t put your hopes up.

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        They’ve spent 80 years looking for a successor to Hitler and never found one.

        Sometimes building a cult around an individual doesn’t work out long term for a movement.

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          I don’t know, I think they got pretty close. Trump standing out there in front saying you’ll never have to vote again… Even now it’s not a sure thing and he’s not going to make it in.

          Hitler wasn’t this magical evil mastermind that just appeared in a vacuum. The fascists were huge party of people that helped him rise to power.

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        They looked for one, spent 4 years, didn’t find one. He lost back to back popular votes. If they thought they had someone more popular, they would have used them.

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          Ya, there’s no successor.
          Trump is a one-off, and his popularity and spellbinding cult effect on 50% of Americans will baffle intelligentsia for millennia.

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            Remember when it seemed like DeSantis might be the successor? His charisma deficit plus his attacking the Weird 34 Idol were just two of Gone Ron’s problems. Sleepy DonOLD is a special kind of narcissistic weirdness that’s nigh impossible to duplicate.

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              I saw some premature Desantis president yard signs years ago. That was a glimpse into a different but also bleak future.

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            As others said, Hitler wasn’t a mastermind. There was a large percent of the population behind him. Another Trump is a maximum of 20 years away. Probably sooner because almost half the US population is behind Trump despite being anti military, a felon, and a rapist. The next demogogue is unlikely to be as overtly criminal.

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            I still think some investigative journalists should look into the NLP connection when it comes to donOLD.

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          They don’t care about the popular vote. But the Republican Party does care that they’ve been consistently losing national elections/referendums/etc. since 2016. Even their slim majority in the house was almost worse than just staying the out party.

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          Trump won. One day he will lose and that is when these others will crawl out of the shadow again. How would you like “Musk 2028”? :D

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            Thankfully impossible. Musk is foreign-born and therefore ineligible unless the constitution is amended and that bar is too high even though the GOP controls most state governments (they need 2/3rds). The GOP played with this idea back when The Governator was polling very well but even then it never passed the trial balloon phase.

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              Thankfully impossible. Musk is foreign-born

              Oh didn’t realize that, so that’s one less headache, because he would be exactly the kind of narcissist who would try that

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    Over the years, Phony Stark went from some sort of [anti]hero to straight up supervillain. I guess kinda like Robert Downey Jr. from Iron Man to Dr. Doom.

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      Maybe they dug too deep for those hairplugs and damaged the empathy part of his brain?

      ^^^just ^^^kidding ^^^he ^^^was ^^^a ^^^asshole ^^^from ^^^the ^^^start

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      This is very insulting, Dr. Doom is an intelligent and effective ruler, please do not draw such an unfair comparison between him and Musk. Fictional character feelings matter.

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      Supervillains have some sort of charisma. People love to hate them. When a Bond villain is on screen, it’s like oh, this guy is cool… if Musk was in a movie it would be like wow, please skip this shit, this guy is boring and creepy. Musk is far from authentically charming. He tries though, and it’s nauseating. I admit that the deranged tangerine baboon has some sort of natural charisma - Musk does not. His special facial expressions are atrocious. His attempts at humor are embarrassingly bad. He has very little social awareness. To top it all off, despite being an off putting and repellent petty, immature and clueless ignoramus, he clearly radiates that he think he is the absolute best. So, his new sycophant relationship with Trump is perfect. He’d be like the #2 or 3 evil henchmen, kind of a side character, who gets knocked off 2/3 through the film and the crowd is relieved.

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    I know of several people interested in EV that either chose some other maker for EV, or have not yet opted into buying at all, entirely because of Elon.

    And that’s before the endorsement of donOLD.

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      I’m the same way. I’m just glad I couldn’t afford a Tesla when I thought Elon was going to do good things for the world. Now that I can afford one, I’ll wait till someone else makes one that competes with it or he’s no longer a part of the company.

      In the meantime, I’ve been looking in to converting something old and neat to an EV to put around town in. The conversions aren’t the greatest but you can do 200hp/tq and 100mile range for less than a crappy used car.

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        He sure has been a big disappointment. I admired and even respected him and what he was driving, but once his PR team decided to not exist any longer, I guess, his behavior was instantly and incredibly immature and off-putting.

        I want to appreciate everything he has had his booger-hooks in for what they are (apart from Twitter), but I just can’t imagine supporting them until he simply isn’t in the picture at all.

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          You know how sometimes a movie is so terrible that it becomes good? I feel that way about Musk. He is so unbelievably stupid that it is honestly sort of amazing. He has all but destroyed Twitter and now he has dealt mortal strike to Tesla by opening endorsing fascists who hate electric cars. Simply amazing.

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      Yep model Y ticks my boxes but I’m probably not gonna change cars or go for one last petrol/hybrid because I feel really dirty at the idea of getting one…

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    His backing signaled that Trump would have all the cash and social media firepower he needed to regain the White House, and it added to a perception that Trump had won over a big share of America’s tech industry and entrepreneur class.

    I’m in tech and I don’t like the orange bad. Billionaires might, but not the rest of us.

    Musk’s endorsement was arguably the most high profile and coveted of this election cycle, given his unprecedented mix of wealth, celebrity and media reach.

    Folks, can we please agree to use the Oxford Comma? Its absence makes me cry.

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      Indeed. I loathe the term “tech bros” because it makes zero distinction between douchebags born into money and that fell backwards into obscene amounts of even more money vs, people like myself who have been into tech from very formative ages, and mostly were ostracized and marginalized for it to a great deal already, until only fairly recently when, for a few short periods of time, certain individuals get lionized and some kind of respect, but usually only if they are involved with either making obscene amounts of money, or by being central to that effort of making someone else a lot of money.

      In a strict sense, I’m a “tech bro” (being male and into tech) but that doesn’t mean I want to be lumped in with dickhead freaks like Elon.

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        I think “Tech bro” is an attitude you can have, without even Knowing anything about actual tech. (Think start up bros who want to get into AI)

        Having common sense is the opposite of that.

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        Same. I got into it for a love of tech. It was cool to work at a company that was doing something exciting. Then people started getting into it not for love of tech but because they found out it could provide high salaries. Same people who become lawyers and doctors only because money. It’s not fun anymore.

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          I will say that my enjoyment of it comes and goes. I hate to say it, but I think there was a huge problem with people rushing into this industry during the late dot-com boom and they had absolutely no business in the industry, and I see a fair bit of that again. Not sure if that is indicating another bust like that one.

          What I’ve also noticed lately is that there seems to be a real culture of gatekeeping type of thing that has emerged - meaning, expecting people to grind away on algorithms and so on just to pass an interview, or expecting people to show all their free time doing commits on GitHub, as if everyone is working for FAANG and is going to be in their early 20s, no matter what the business is actually doing and what their needs really are. Very few places actually need people to do massively distributed systems, serving customers in the way that FAANG does, so the algorithms and the opportunity to try to see how much computer science [whatever] someone remembers at the whiteboard, as well as stats on Github have little to do with the actual job, but there are a lot people that want to make people dance this little jig, anyway.

          That culture absolutely sucks, IMHO.

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        It seems to me the term “tech bro” has always had emphasis on the “bro”, as in the type of toxic masculinity that made Gamergate blow up. I have always preferred the term “geek” for myself; now doubly so for its gender neutrality.

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        I could describe myself in similar terms as you described yourself; basically a nerd who can also program my way out of a paper bag (and maybe a leather one).

        To me the term “tech bro” always meant someone between Elon Musk and some low middle class douche-bag who feels smart and adult about “accepting” that AI needs to be everywhere and we also need to pay for SW every month. Someone person who would say “bUt iT’s fOrD mOdEl T” and has some Alexa non-sense in their house.

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      Libertarian tech bro here. Fuck Trump. He’s offering us his permission to use permissionless money, and too many of us are cowards who beg for it anyways.

      The battle for financial freedom is already over. All that’s left are social freedoms like abortion and immigration.

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      Folks, can we please agree to use the Oxford Comma? Its absence makes me cry.

      Its absence makes Rachael Ray seem psycho:

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        I kept rereading the green text, trying to understand what you meant. When I finally looked below, nice hearty laugh.

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    I won’t forget that Musk played a front-facing role in trying to put an insurrectionist criminal back in power to finish the job of destroying American democracy.

    NASA should be very careful about how they deal with SpaceX since Musk also frequently spreads Russian propaganda.

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    IT DIDN’T BACKFIRE! THAT’S A LIE!

    Elon musk pointed a gun at his own head and fired, that’s not backfiring.
    But some people may be surprised that somehow it wasn’t a good idea.
    But I’m sure Trump is left there laughing. Maybe he is going down, but at least he can take some people with him.

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    Does no one else see that Musk is becoming a cliche´ bond villian?

    He owns a company that facilitates worldwide communications thru satellites in Earth’s controlled by him.

    He owns a company that facilitates the movement of people where each one of his vehicles report back to him everything in and around it and exactly where it is in the world.

    He owns a company that a good number of people worldwide use to communicate with each other the most mundane to confidential things. He rules it with an iron fist allowing comminications of those who wish to subjugate others and commit violence to flow free while censoring or banning those who wish for peace and understanding.

    He owns a company focused on space travel, and whose goal is to colonize another planet but whose technology can also be sold to anyone with enough money to use as an airborne delivery system for weapons.

    And let’s be honest. Musk doesn’t want to just colonize another planet, he wants to control it by controlling the means of getting there, how people travel, communicate, and live once there. Who is going to tell the King of Mars no? It’s not like the gov’ts that stopped their own programs to give him money to do it instead can do anything.

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      Does no one else see that Musk is becoming a cliche´ bond villian?

      Does no one else see that Musk is becoming parody of a cliche´ bond villian?

      FTFY