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      People in general are very interested in the politics of who deserves recognition (in whatever form) over others. Fundamentally it’s about an instinct towards “fairness.”

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      No. But focusing on supporting one single app instead of the platform is not sustainable for the platform. This meme is just a reminder to support the platform as well.

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        I haven’t seen a single call to action to donate to Lemmy other than the static sidebar on desktop. Something like that would be far more helpful than complaining about previous Sync users continuing to donate to Sync. Nothing is being taken from Lemmy, Sync already had a big user base and is bringing many of them over here thanks to the app. Let’s call to action to them to donate to instances instead of complaining.

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          Accurate. I used Sync for Reddit until they were forced out. I then switched to Sync for Lemmy for the familiar interface, the ease of setup, etc. Sync literally brought me to Lemmy.

          Since then I looked around and still prefer this app. On a side note: why does the UI for Voyager on Android look like some old version of iOS?

          Hate all you want but Sync being popular is a good thing for Lemmy adoption.

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          My opinion is that what matters is how much money each part of the network receives.

          For example, instances tend to be transparent about their funding. And we can see that some of them are just months away of being out of cash. Meanwhile, we see people subscribing(!) to a very expensive app that charges $20 to remove ads (and tracking and data collecting) otherwise.

          I think is okay to keep people aware of these things. Getting defensive about it is just a waste of energy. For both sides.

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        Would you have ever posted something like this is sync didn’t come out? Why didn’t you post something like this before sync came out?

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        I agree with you. It’s not to attack sync users, it’s just to remind them that there’s an entire ecosystem dependent on donations

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    Oh no my $20 for a lifetime purchase of removing ads from an app I’ve enjoyed using for like a decade. 🥱

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      I think the point of the post is ain’t nobody donating $20 to the Lemmy platform or host or other apps

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        This meme implies that Sync is taking all the donations though. The people donating to Sync didn’t stop donating to Lemmy to do so

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          Yea this is the thing I keep saying. Who cares about if you’re paying $20 for an app if that’s what you want to do. Just remember to help out the instances who are running things to make that app work. I think a lot of people realize this and that’s great, but I’m sure some people also don’t. So, instead of circlejerking about Sync being $20, it would have been better for make one or two posts days ago with that reminder and leave it be. Instead, we see the circlejerk continuing days later.

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            I agree. Although I was surprised that my insurance rejected all forms of donation. It’s pretty small, though.

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        My instance shut down donos because they were bringing in way more than they needed and are sitting on years of server costs at current usage. I was donating when they were open, though.

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        A new platform like Lemmy needs to establish trust and reliability for a certain time period before it can expect people to give back something. Something that the Sync developer has established already for a decade now.

        Assuming that Lemmy continues to flourish well, I will be perfectly happy to donate to Lemmy, in fact I’m quite sure that in the long run I’ll donate a lot more to Lemmy than the one time purchase cost of Sync.

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          I agree. As an immigrant from reddit, I have noticed a lot of server instability. It doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the future of Lemmy.

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        I’m signed up the patreon for mine, they’re gonna get more than $20 over time

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        My instance doesn’t take donations at the moment. I’ll definitely contribute once there’s something.

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        I mean, take that up with Reddit. Hopefully, lemmy doesn’t somehow stop people from using apps.

        Besides I’m happy to pay for the development costs of him porting the entire thing to use lemmy instead super fast, whilst being really responsive to any issues and questions. Of the 5 apps on my phone, sync feels the best to me so I’m cool supporting it.

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    I saw an earlier post that showed Lemmy’s recent rapid growth followed by a plateau and then slight decline. My feeling is that there is a very LOUD minority of Lemmy users that are trying to act as self-anointed gatekeepers and they’re bringing the platform down as a direct consequence. It makes the platform look petty and small to new and existing users alike. If the top posts are continually about shaming other users then this platform isn’t going to last. Let’s focus on building communities and having interesting conversations rather than one upping each other.

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      When Sync lauched it was all anyone was talking about. I don’t see the memes for and against Sync as people actually upset I just think it is the meta topic of the week. Like when beans were a meme following the “how can I not poop for three days?”

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        that may or may not be the case, but the reality of the situation is that it makes the whole foss community look a whole lot more off putting

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        I just wanted to tell you how happy I was to see the Netscape logo as your icon. Brought me back to the old days of the internet.

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          Thanks, I’m glad it made you happy. I love how it manages to get so much detail despite being so low resolution.

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      They spent a month shitting on reddit now there’s something new to shit on

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      Nailed it. Some users are intent on making this reddit 2.0 with all the baggage. Ive seen entire subs be spam downvoted because some user had the time and hate.

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      very LOUD minority

      self-anointed gatekeepers

      top posts are continually about shaming other users

      Crabs in a bucket. No one’s allowed to succeed, unless everyone™ does.

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    It’s more like one dev made the best user experience on lemmy, so people give him money. At least that’s the case for me.

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          Oh wow good to see you here! I remember you from the early days when we had less than 6k subs there!

          It used to be such a fun, vibrant and exciting hobby and community. It so sad to see how regulations basically strangled the life out of it. It’s very nice to see familiar usernames pop up here and there!

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            It feels like early reddit without the fuckery doesn’t it? 😆

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              Totally! Not just that, the user base also feels different, sorta how reddit was before it became mainstream

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      Well you see, it’s important to aggressively gatekeep anything that people start to use and enjoy.

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      The people who are actually angry tend to be FOSS advocates. I think they were assuming Sync would have a FOSS type option for users, and were surprised that wasn’t the case.

      The rest of us just think it’s funny.

      I’m a sync user, btw

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      It’s just a meme because when Sync launched it was all over everyone’s feeds. I don’t think as many folks are as angry about it as it seems but it’s definitely a good topic for meta memes.

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        Im just happy for the influx of posts commenta and votes since sync launched.

        Before it was a good day if a post got 50 upvotes Now its common to see 200+ and theres a ton more comments.

        Its improved the experience in my opinion.

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      If you are not paying for Sync you are getting ads. So you are still paying (attention, data, you are the product).

      Additionally proprietary software has some long term disadvantages that are not visible at first. This is why one needs to always inform people about it as they do not understand these disadvantages.

      The biggest issue is that the owners of the proprietary code can change its course whenever they like it. See for example the Reddit Apollo Dev who would have sold out the community for 10 million dollars:

      See his own published audio and the discussion on HN:

      https://christianselig.com/apollo-end/reddit-third-call-may-31-end.m4a

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36245906

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    Christ, let me use my favorite app in peace instead of going “tsk tsk” and whinging about it when no one’s stopping you from using other apps.

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      Like this is somehow the fault of sync’s dev. Go ahead folks, the donate to lemmy button is at the top of the page, go ahead and click on it if your morals are so true.

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        Honestly. This isn’t some centralized platform. Donating at least some of the profits to the people making the app possible seems fitting. While I don’t agree with the API pricing of Reddit, I think it’s fitting that it should cost something at least, if not only to cover wage for the people working on the API

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    Leave reddit cause you can’t use your preferred app anymore. Come to Lemmy, and get beat over the head for your choice of preferred app.

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        plus it is a subscription model.

        There is a non-subscription model that also disables the admob tracking.

        I am pro-facts

        But not nuances, it feels.

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          That’s not just a feeling. They professionally cherry picked facts to try to generate outrage. And threw any context out the window along the way.

          I have never seen a website so consistently entitled. It changes my sympathetic view of the left into a need to self reflect and maybe ensure those sympathies get solid, unwavering boundaries.

          No one is entitled to other people’s stuff. We can credibly argue whether value is flowing to the right places, but that’s not what I’m seeing on lemmy in sync-bash posts.

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    Willing to bet the lemmy platform is more likely to get support from the type of person that would also pay for an app like sync than it is to get money from people that like to grandstand like OP.

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      I’ve donated to Lemmy, Beehaw, and Mastodon and came here because Reddit killed Sync. Lemmy is full of gatekeepers and it’s bringing the platform down. Half the posts are whining about reddit and the other half are whining because someone doesn’t adhere to the perfect open source ethos and shun anything not completely free. It’s getting tiring. No wonder Lemmy’s active user count is decreasing.

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        I’m thinking the sync app will entice enough people with… differing views that the in-place gatekeeping will lose its bite.

        I appreciate the FOSS ecosystem, but the people around here seem to think that you should never be able to sustain a living from writing software. Like I should just go back to construction and only write code on the side.

        That attitude can kiss my ass.

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    Why would people do this? We want the hughest amount of users we can, and for most people to believe in FOSS or even copyleft philosophy, but this just pushes people away. Just use whatever app you like best and maybe donate to incentivize the app you believe in. But to just relenlessly mock non-FOSS apps only hurts the community and doesn’t foster growth.