i gave cyberpunk2077 another shot after hating it at launch because multiple people pestered me about it for two years. i was repeatedly told of my lengthy list of criticisms, ā€œthey fixed all that, itā€™s like a totally different game nowā€.

10 hours later itā€™s clear that theyā€™re either:

a) delusional b) liars c) literally cannot hear criticism of the game being spoken aloud

because that shit was 99% identical to at launch, bugs included. the difference between the game that people keep describing to me and the game in front of me is so stark that iā€™m fucking baffled. itā€™s like itā€™s a cult or something.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Ok, so, back to basics, the same questiom I keep asking you, and you keep not answering:

    What do you define an ā€œactual RPGā€ as, what attributes or qualities or systems does an ā€œactual RPGā€ have, such that CP77 is not one, but other games are?

    You are just waffling about in the midst of vagueries and variants, as I keep asking you the same question, and you continue being unable to answer it.

    This is the closest you have gotten:

    The definition is fuzzy, but the game doesnā€™t have anything I associate with any type of RPG at all. Itā€™s just not even on the same planet as the giant fuzzy mess of many distinct definitions that make up everything people talk about when they talk about RPGs.

    Ok, so, CP77 has literally nothing that you associate with an RPG.

    There is almost no way that can possibly make any sense if you break down all the the game mechanics and features shared by CP77 and many other games generally referred to as RPGs.

    Can you please be specific and identify what ā€œan actual RPGā€ has?

    What would CP77 need to have added to be an RPG, what is it lacking?

    Because it already has a whole bunch of game mechanics and features that are common to many other RPG games.

    Or if you arenā€™t capable of breaking down game mechanics and features, can you give me a specific example of a game that is an ā€œactual RPGā€ that meets your definition, so that we could maybe directly compare that game to CP77?

    If you canā€™t even describe what an RPG ā€¦ is ā€¦ then you literally, definitionally, cannot know what you are talking about, cannot be saying anything with an actual concrete meaning.

    So far, all you have is No True Scotsman.

    You made a claim that CP77 is not an ā€œactual RPGā€.

    I keep trying to ask you ā€œwhat, then, is an actual RPG, what assemblage of which characteristics constitutes an actual RPG?ā€

    And you are so far entirely incapable of answering this.