“Everyone that has ever even thought about roleplaying as a different gender is secretly closeted trans” is one of my least favorite takes of all time.
Gender is bullshit! Try shit! It’s a perfectly healthy and normal thing everyone should be comfortable with, don’t make it into a thing.
Yeah, this sort of shit has gotten under my skin since identity stuff started exploding into public discourse.
If gender is a construct, why the fuck are we still using traditionally masculine and feminine actions/interests to prescribe identity? What gives anyone the right to prescribe someone else’s identity?
Is this the rare non-binary hating but trans supportive individual? I don’t get it.
Gender being a construct doesn’t mean you can’t willingly put yourself into that pre constructed idea, you can be whatever you like. It’s prescribing it to others that’s fucked up.
Regardless, nobody as angry as you has ever convinced anyone of anything, nor will anyone ever convince you of anything. I’m sure the world is harsh towards you, and I’m sorry you feel the need to match that energy.
Gender being a construct doesn’t mean you can’t willingly put yourself into that pre constructed idea, you can be whatever you like. It’s prescribing it to others that’s fucked up.
Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make. Anyone can be whatever they want. Categorizing others is the problem, and one that feels especially wrong for me to keep seeing come from the LGBTQIA+ and ally/adjacent communities (please don’t nitpick me on terminology here, my point is that it seems to be coming from the people who I would expect to be better about this than other groups).
No, I dress very feminine and sometimes play girls in games as well, but I’m not a girl, I’m a transmasc. I know for sure I’m trans also, there isn’t a shred of doubt in my mind. I utterly hate so many things about being AFAB, especially my periods (those cause crippling dysphoria for me 😔 ).
It’s entirely possible, but that’s something for every individual to find out for themselves. You can be a confidently cis dude and find it enjoyable to have a female avatar, correlation == causation.
Gender is not bullshit, gender is real and trans people are real. Stop spreading stupid anti-trans rhetoric. People who feel and express a certain gender are more likely to be that gender, even if that gender doesn’t align with their assigned gender at birth.
“me not being able to label anyone that breathes funny as a closeted trans person is anti-trans rhetoric” is certainly one of the takes of all time.
It’s the exact same shit as “teehee they’re intelligent they must be autistic” or “oh you organize your socks you must have adhd/ocd”. It’s not suddenly okay to assume shit about people when it’s that they’re not cis/neurotypical.
Gender is whatever the fuck any individual wants it to be for them. I like how that other commentor described it, gender anarchy.
Being trans isn’t a choice and our society already stigmatizes being trans so people deny it or won’t accept it and make up dumb excuses to not accept the fact they are a trans girl. But people need to come out because being closeted isn’t healthy, and the sooner the better.
Why are you so against trans people coming out and accepting themselves as trans?
People can do whatever the fuck they want, to themselves. You don’t get to tell them what they are or aren’t. There is nothing different between calling a stranger an egg and telling someone you don’t believe they’re really trans.
Anyways, this conversation will clearly never go anywhere productive. I hope your real world day goes better.
No, there is a big difference between trying to help someone discover themselves and denying a person’s gender identity. To argue that they are the same is Transphobic TERF garbage meant to spread the idea that being trans is wrong or abnormal.
You are right to acknowledge that this will never be productive. Arguing with TERFs rarely is.
“Everyone that has ever even thought about roleplaying as a different gender is secretly closeted trans” is one of my least favorite takes of all time.
Gender is bullshit! Try shit! It’s a perfectly healthy and normal thing everyone should be comfortable with, don’t make it into a thing.
Yeah, this sort of shit has gotten under my skin since identity stuff started exploding into public discourse.
If gender is a construct, why the fuck are we still using traditionally masculine and feminine actions/interests to prescribe identity? What gives anyone the right to prescribe someone else’s identity?
And this is why I call myself a gender anarchist
Because gender is not a construct you stupid TERF, gender is real and trans people are real. Get that through your thick head.
Is this the rare non-binary hating but trans supportive individual? I don’t get it.
Gender being a construct doesn’t mean you can’t willingly put yourself into that pre constructed idea, you can be whatever you like. It’s prescribing it to others that’s fucked up.
Regardless, nobody as angry as you has ever convinced anyone of anything, nor will anyone ever convince you of anything. I’m sure the world is harsh towards you, and I’m sorry you feel the need to match that energy.
Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make. Anyone can be whatever they want. Categorizing others is the problem, and one that feels especially wrong for me to keep seeing come from the LGBTQIA+ and ally/adjacent communities (please don’t nitpick me on terminology here, my point is that it seems to be coming from the people who I would expect to be better about this than other groups).
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isn’t that the entire point though? if you consistently like doing this, you might not be what you think you are, and thats ok too.
No, I dress very feminine and sometimes play girls in games as well, but I’m not a girl, I’m a transmasc. I know for sure I’m trans also, there isn’t a shred of doubt in my mind. I utterly hate so many things about being AFAB, especially my periods (those cause crippling dysphoria for me 😔 ).
It’s entirely possible, but that’s something for every individual to find out for themselves. You can be a confidently cis dude and find it enjoyable to have a female avatar, correlation == causation.
correlation vs causation is irrelevant. The important thing is that there are no absolutes.
Gender is not bullshit, gender is real and trans people are real. Stop spreading stupid anti-trans rhetoric. People who feel and express a certain gender are more likely to be that gender, even if that gender doesn’t align with their assigned gender at birth.
“me not being able to label anyone that breathes funny as a closeted trans person is anti-trans rhetoric” is certainly one of the takes of all time.
It’s the exact same shit as “teehee they’re intelligent they must be autistic” or “oh you organize your socks you must have adhd/ocd”. It’s not suddenly okay to assume shit about people when it’s that they’re not cis/neurotypical.
Gender is whatever the fuck any individual wants it to be for them. I like how that other commentor described it, gender anarchy.
Being trans isn’t a choice and our society already stigmatizes being trans so people deny it or won’t accept it and make up dumb excuses to not accept the fact they are a trans girl. But people need to come out because being closeted isn’t healthy, and the sooner the better. Why are you so against trans people coming out and accepting themselves as trans?
People can do whatever the fuck they want, to themselves. You don’t get to tell them what they are or aren’t. There is nothing different between calling a stranger an egg and telling someone you don’t believe they’re really trans.
Anyways, this conversation will clearly never go anywhere productive. I hope your real world day goes better.
No, there is a big difference between trying to help someone discover themselves and denying a person’s gender identity. To argue that they are the same is Transphobic TERF garbage meant to spread the idea that being trans is wrong or abnormal.
You are right to acknowledge that this will never be productive. Arguing with TERFs rarely is.