I actually think that podcasts are a success story in that respect. 2015-2020 saw a lot of money getting thrown into the podcast space, and despite billions of dollars going into it and a bunch of exclusivity deals, nobody was actually able to take any real market dominance.
Now, that might’ve been because podcasts are kind of tied to platforms inherently (and without deciding the iPhone vs Android debate you can’t decide the Apple Podcasts vs YouTube debate), but that’s buoyed by the fact that the platform is essentially nothing more than the protocol, and it was given a solid decade to become what it is today without a ton of meddling.
So, yeah. Billions of dollars went in, everyone decided they couldn’t make any real money there, and so the big companies left the market. The fact that Rogan isn’t exclusive to Spotify anymore is just the latest example. Corporations lost. Podcasting won.
I would argue it’s one of few ways people listen to podcasts. And seeing as the article is talking about Joe Rogan, who is on Spotify exclusively, it kind of makes sense to look at Spotify statistics, no?
Do you still feel so smart?
By that logic, if Joe Rogan had his own podcast streaming platform, only streaming his own podcast, by definition no one could ever have more downloads than him.
I mean, I guess?
But that’s nothing like what we’re talking about here.
I’m not even sure what you people are arguing?
Spotify - 35th, Apple - 20th, Of the top 100 podcasts, across all sites, Meidas is #20.
Okay, I’ve done the research. They’re still not above Joe Rogan. Which is what my original comment was shedding light on. But apparently you people WANT misinformation, so long as it fits your narrow-minded views lol.
Go do the research yourself. I could not find any site that listed Meidas above Joe Rogan.
If you don’t want to accept that, and just argue everything, that’s on you. Stay lied to. You know what they say - ignorance is bliss.
Notably those other platforms are all views that Joe Rogan isn’t getting. They just add to the total. You don’t have to top each platform individually to get to the overall highest
The article cited a source on overall views where you can see exactly what they described
So you’re saying that looking at Spotify is going to be even more misleading because 100% of Joe Rogan’s listeners are there vs not all listeners of other podcasts?
Considering there’s many podcast platforms, and Joe Rogan is only on one. Looking at just Spotify statistics is the worst way to tell what the overall statistics look like.
I keep subscribing, listening regularly then stopping and unsubscribing from various NPR podcasts and honestly I can only conclude that they bake in ads based on the listener and will do less ads for new listeners because I swear it’s always a very small amount of ads initially every time
Having started primarily listening to audio books and sneaking in some podcasts between books it’s very night and day comparing the experience of listening to each, with shitloads of ads vs none (or just “this is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. To learn more or to volunteer visit LibriVox.org”) so it’s much more hands off with audio books at least
I stopped subscribing last year sometime and just look through Freah Air to find stories that seem interesting. I still enjoy/listen to other shows occasionally, but the ads have become more intrusive.
Spotify is not the only way to listen to podcasts
Indeed. YouTube and Apple are far more dominant than Spotify.
Observation 1: we are seriously here discussing which big tech platform people use to listen to the maybe the last truly decentralised media.
Observation 2: the discussion makes sense in the context.
We really fucked up this internet thing, didn’t we?
I actually think that podcasts are a success story in that respect. 2015-2020 saw a lot of money getting thrown into the podcast space, and despite billions of dollars going into it and a bunch of exclusivity deals, nobody was actually able to take any real market dominance.
Now, that might’ve been because podcasts are kind of tied to platforms inherently (and without deciding the iPhone vs Android debate you can’t decide the Apple Podcasts vs YouTube debate), but that’s buoyed by the fact that the platform is essentially nothing more than the protocol, and it was given a solid decade to become what it is today without a ton of meddling.
So, yeah. Billions of dollars went in, everyone decided they couldn’t make any real money there, and so the big companies left the market. The fact that Rogan isn’t exclusive to Spotify anymore is just the latest example. Corporations lost. Podcasting won.
I would argue it’s one of few ways people listen to podcasts. And seeing as the article is talking about Joe Rogan, who is on Spotify exclusively, it kind of makes sense to look at Spotify statistics, no? Do you still feel so smart?
By that logic, if Joe Rogan had his own podcast streaming platform, only streaming his own podcast, by definition no one could ever have more downloads than him.
I mean, I guess? But that’s nothing like what we’re talking about here. I’m not even sure what you people are arguing? Spotify - 35th, Apple - 20th, Of the top 100 podcasts, across all sites, Meidas is #20.
Okay, I’ve done the research. They’re still not above Joe Rogan. Which is what my original comment was shedding light on. But apparently you people WANT misinformation, so long as it fits your narrow-minded views lol.
Go do the research yourself. I could not find any site that listed Meidas above Joe Rogan. If you don’t want to accept that, and just argue everything, that’s on you. Stay lied to. You know what they say - ignorance is bliss.
Notably those other platforms are all views that Joe Rogan isn’t getting. They just add to the total. You don’t have to top each platform individually to get to the overall highest
The article cited a source on overall views where you can see exactly what they described
https://app.podscribe.ai/series/top?months=1&orderDirection=desc&orderName=monthlyDownloads&pageIndex=0
I only pointed out your flawed logic, I’m not the one ranting here
So you’re saying that looking at Spotify is going to be even more misleading because 100% of Joe Rogan’s listeners are there vs not all listeners of other podcasts?
Go see my other comment.
In guessing you oppose ranked choice voting because you don’t understand it.
Considering there’s many podcast platforms, and Joe Rogan is only on one. Looking at just Spotify statistics is the worst way to tell what the overall statistics look like.
The hot take that was so bad you had to post it twice.
A lot of folks don’t use Spotify at all. Myself included. I listen to a lot of podcasts, including Midas touch.
Why would I pay for audio, when I’m a fan of FOSS. And there’s a number of free alternatives?
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You could try looking on podscribe. You know, the source cited by the article. Because they compile data across platforms.
Okay. Done. Clearly you didn’t check Podscribe.
Actually I did. Stop being obtuse. Scroll down to ranking by downloads/views per month.
Obligatory fuck Crime Junkie
Plagiarizing and review-buying pieces of shit
NPR News Hour used to be my morning listen. Now it’s so stacked with native ads and AEI talking heads that it’s unlistenable.
I keep subscribing, listening regularly then stopping and unsubscribing from various NPR podcasts and honestly I can only conclude that they bake in ads based on the listener and will do less ads for new listeners because I swear it’s always a very small amount of ads initially every time
Having started primarily listening to audio books and sneaking in some podcasts between books it’s very night and day comparing the experience of listening to each, with shitloads of ads vs none (or just “this is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. To learn more or to volunteer visit LibriVox.org”) so it’s much more hands off with audio books at least
I stopped subscribing last year sometime and just look through Freah Air to find stories that seem interesting. I still enjoy/listen to other shows occasionally, but the ads have become more intrusive.