• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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        14 days ago

        In practice, sort of. It’s a symptom or side effect of two other really good ideas:

        • A jury cannot be in any way punished for any verdict they reach.

        • One cannot be tried for the same offense twice if it is acquitted. Technical term for this is “double jeopardy.” A guilty verdict can be appealed but a not guilty verdict is absolutely final.

        The shapes of these two principles are such that they cannot interlock in any way that does not leave room for jury nullification.

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      15 days ago

      You need to lie to the judge under oath to do it. There simply aren’t consequences, but it is very much illegal.

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        Wrong. They try to filter out people who know about jury nullification, but the act itself is not illegal, as you do not have to have the knowledge to accidentally do it anyway.

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          That seems pretty unfair to filter out people who know about it, it’s basically filtering knowledgeable people.

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          Just to be clear, one of the standard questions to ask a potential jury is “you must be able to render a verdict solely on the evidence presented at the trial and in the context of the law as I will give it to you in my instructions, disregarding any other ideas, notions, or beliefs about the law. Are you able to do this?”

          If you know about jury nullification, with the intent of using it, then you need to lie under oath to get past this question.

          The question was taken from the New Mexico US courts

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            Are you able to do this?

            Ahead of time, I could answer truthfully that I am able. I don’t have to say “but when the time comes, I may choose not to for any reason”

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      The root of the issue is that being an admin is hard work, with consistent time commitment, and it falls to whoever has enough spare time and just feels like doing it. So there’s no real “standard” like there would be at a job. If you annoy the other admins, you’re probably going to be gone, but other than that, they need you to be there, because finding other volunteers to take over for you is going to be difficult.

      Here’s what I don’t understand: The social side of LW administration is clearly off the rails. I’m not even trying to say they’re “bad” or power tripping or whatever. They’re just amateurs jumping into what is at the best of times a difficult and neverending balancing act of good judgements, and it makes sense that they’d get it wrong sometimes. But how is the back-end admin team killing it to such a degree? I cannot imagine that running a service like lemmy.world is easy. So… how did they manage to attract people who can succeed at the objectively hard challenge of keeping the whole thing humming along, pretty successfully, when the quality of people they can attract to the much less objective-qualification-needing side of leading the mod team and the social side of admin is so haphazard?

      I never really thought about it before, but it’s an interesting question now that I look at it.

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        they can attract to the much less objective-qualification-needing side of leading the mod team and the social side of admin is so haphazard?

        Most people don’t want to mod news and politics communities.

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    I consider human life sacred

    Like the lives of those cut short by denying treatment so CEOs and shareholders can make more money?

    only God may judge us

    Oh, fuck off. If God exists and actually cared, he/she/they would have “judged” the guy a long time ago for introducing needless suffering and cruelty.

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      only god may judge us

      Is a great argument for jury nullification. Because that will allow for god to decide the shooters verdict.

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          That’ll be pretty useless if most of their communities are lemmy.world communities, it’s not a good idea to divorce an instance but still participate and be dependent on their communities, unless you’re willing to obfuscate your activity with alts that aren’t connected to you. Otherwise they’ll just ban you from those communities anyway.

          Also be warned, it doesn’t take your post history, or even saved posts with you, if you want saved posts you have to bring them manually, and you can’t take post history with you at all.

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            Also be warned, it doesn’t take your post history, or even saved posts with you, if you want saved posts you have to bring them manually, and you can’t take post history with you at all

            Probably not a big deal for the majority of people. Just link your old profile in your bio if you want to keep your “reputation”

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              Saved posts will probably be a bigger deal since people saved them for a reason.

              Also I did mention bringing history with you because spiteful admins can wash your history away when you can’t bring it with you. If you could claim and reassigned ownership of the federated posts and comments they’d only be able to wash it away from the communities they moderate.

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                Saved posts will probably be a bigger deal since people saved them for a reason.

                How many saved posts do people have on average?

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                  I’m not sure, I know that on this account I have over 100. On Lemmy.world I probably have way more. I have 40 on pawb.social. I have a lot here though. Much less on the others since I use those accounts less but I still have a handful on all the others.

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    I want to find a new home instance, just randomly picked this one when I signed up moving from reddit.

    Anybody got any suggestions or one’s to avoid?