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    Which, no fuck you Biden for pardoning your son. He committed multiple crimes, including gun laws and convicted in a fair trial.

    Fuck you for proving that there is a two tier Justice system.

    Fuck you for undermining gun control.

    Fuck you for giving yet another example that Democrats are no better than Republicans.

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        Yeah, I also agree but as you can see, people still treat this crap as a team sport instead of treating everyone equally under the law.

        I mean hell, how are we supposed to say fuck the trump family for all their shady, illegal behavior with taxes and prosecute them when Democrats are pardoning a tax evader and making excuses when he did do those things regardless of political bullshit.

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        He also made a huge deal for months(years even?) about how he wasn’t going to interfere…

        It was obviously billshit and he’d have done this even if Kamala won. But if Bidens fans cared about facts or logic, they wouldn’t be fans of Biden.

        They just latched onto anyone they were told to who wasn’t named trump

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            Not really…

            trump is obviously worse. But when Trump does dumb shit everyone around me is also complaining

            When it’s Biden doing dumb shit, if I mentioned it I’d get called a trump supporter for having higher standards.

            When a republican is in office people pay attention and care. Which helps the next election.

            But when Dem voters spend four years trying to bring up ways Biden can be better, and they’re told “if you’re not loyal, you’re a Trumper” it just seems like depressed Dem turnout shouldn’t be surprising.

            Hell, Biden said Black people who weren’t 100% sure they were going to vote for him, maybe weren’t Black. Which full circle, is why we never fucking heard from him

            It wasn’t a good thing, it’s because he wasn’t fit for the job and when he opened his mouth he said all the wrong things.

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                When it’s Biden doing dumb shit, if I mentioned it I’d get called a trump supporter for having higher standards.

                If you haven’t seen that over the last four years…

                Well, sometimes things seem obvious to one person, while another has no clue what’s going.

                The problem is when that person insists things that conclusively can be proven didn’t happen, because they weren’t paying attention.

                Ironically enough, you’re proving my point.

                When a republican is in office people pay attention and care. Which helps the next election.

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                    It’s very possible you never criticized Biden so you’d never have seen it.

                    But someone whose paid the slightest amount of interest in politics over the last four years would have seen the exchange happen.

                    I struggle to believe someone political engaged never saw it. But you just cracked double digit words don’t want to wear you out.

                    Let me know when the sand gets interesting.

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            If Kamala had won, Hunter being in the custody of the DOJ wouldn’t be a national security risk

            Just what the actual fuck does that even mean?

      • What Joe isn’t saying is that he’s not going to hand his son over to Trump to be used for ransom and influence over Biden as a former president and that this has fuckalll to do with the merits of the case or interests of criminal justice.

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      To be fair, I doubt he’d pardon hunter if Kalama won. Can you imagine what would happen to Hunter with DoJ under trump admin? Yes he did crimes, but crimes need to have proportional punishment, which I doubt trump admin is gonna be fair about it.

      Feeding your son to a felon president is a bad idea.

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        To be fair, I doubt he’d pardon hunter if Kalama won.

        Why?

        He said he wouldn’t even if Trump won…

        He was going to do it regardless.

        Feeding your son to a felon president is a bad idea.

        What about everyone gun owner who uses cannabis in a state that legalized cannabis?

        Unfortunately crack and weed use would be treated the same under federal law.

        Biden can fix that be de-classifying marijuana and help millions of Americans.

        But he’s only saving one crackhead.

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          It’s really sad to me that the Portland community is moderated by a center right liberal.

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              Yeah, cause there is anyone left wing on the city council and like we haven’t had a succession of center right Democrats that used to be republicans as mayors.

              The city is the way it is under leadership that aligns with your politics.

              The city we have is the city we get if you get everything you want politically. It’s literally your mess.

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        Hunter Biden was scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 12 for his conviction on federal gun charges. He also was set to be sentenced on Dec. 16 in a separate criminal case in which he pleaded guilty to federal tax evasion charges in September.

        Trump’s absolutely screwed up Justice department would have had nothing to do with the sentencing.

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          Did you know, unlike a Jury’s “non-guilty” verdict, court sentencing can be appealed?

          If the prosecution believes the sentence to be too light, they can appeal and request a heavier sentence.

          Also, there are many more ways a weaponized DoJ can mess with its prisoners. if epstein got killed under trump admin, who’s to say it can’t happen to others, regardless of if they are as terrible as epstein or not.

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            Oh for fucks sake, you think that Epstein was killed by the Trump admin? Get out of here with that conspiracy theory BS.

            And no a prosecutor can’t just say “oh it’s to light” and a judge just grants it. There had to be legal basis behind it like sentencing below the minimum mandated sentence and even the most shitty judges aren’t looking to undermine the other judges and the system unlike what is happening here.

            But whatever, you can all be go sports team with this and downvote away but you’re just proving what regular Americans think, even if it’s not, that both sides are the same with this.

        • This wasn’t because of the merits of the case or the interests of justice. This was a national security move. A Russian agent is taking over the DOJ. We’re not going to give him the former president’s son.

          Lol.

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      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/legal-experts-say-charges-hunter-biden-are-rarely-brought-rcna90191

      “It insults the intelligence of the American people to compare misdemeanor tax charges to a scheme to steal Top Secret documents and obstruct justice when the government asked for them back,” he tweeted, comparing the charges against Hunter Biden to the recent federal indictment against former President Donald Trump. “If anything, Hunter Biden was treated harshly — those crimes are rarely charged.”

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        Tax charges?

        He was a crackhead that illegally bought a gun after lying on federal forms and then abandoned the gun in a trash can where it was gone by the time his wife found it…

        Now, I’m not a CPA, but how is that a “tax charge”?

        If anything, Hunter Biden was treated harshly — those crimes are rarely charged.”

        I do appreciate that quote literally using Trump’s own excuse for tax fraud tho…

        But you should but an /s or something or people will think you actually believe what the quote claims.

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          The gun indictment was revealed as part of his tax investigation.

          Kinda like when they investigated Clinton for Whitewater and found out he lied about a blowjob.

          In both cases, the crimes are rarely prosecuted. The only reason they were prosecuted was because Clinton is Clinton and Hunter is Hunter.

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            The reason the gun charges are rarely prosecuted is most people aren’t dumb enough to admit it in an autobiography and do book tours talking about and verify you did in fact break federal gun laws…

            Most people wouldnt do that because they’re afraid of prison.

            Hunter Biden wasnt, even though his dad promised not to pardon him and that “no one is above the law”

            And now he’s pardoned. Either Biden was always going to do this and lied to us, or the US president just got punked by his adult son in a way I thought only Netenyahu could punk him.

            I’m honestly not sure which would be worse.

            Which do you think happend?

            1. Biden lied and was always going to do this

            2. A geriatric man just got manipulated by his adult crackhead son

            3. Mystery answer you havent came up with yet

            Because it’s hard to act like it’s because of the charges being bullshit now when they’re the same charges as when Biden said he was staying out of it.

            The only thing that changed is Joe and Hunter both expected Joe’s DOJ to let Hunter off

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              1. Biden was willing to let the charges stand right up until Trump got elected and started talking about how he was going to pardon everyone from 1/6 onward.

              “Oh, so he’s going to abuse pardon power? Fine, fuck it, Hunter gets a pardon.”

              • Close but missed it.

                Biden was willing until Trump won because with Trump running the DOJ, letting the DOJ have custody of Biden’s son is a massive national security risk.

                That was never going to happen.

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      and convicted in a fair trial.

      To be fair, that’s kinda just what pardons are for.

      I almost want to give Hunter a break because he never would have even been charged if his dad wasn’t President. Then I remember how he misused his father’s status for personal gain. I figure that takes the first issue off the table.

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      WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Hunter Biden was convicted Tuesday of all three felony charges related to the purchase of a revolver in 2018 when, prosecutors argued, the president’s son lied on a mandatory gun-purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs.

      Lying on an ATF Form 4473 is almost never prosecuted because much of the language is wishy-washy. Ever filled one out?

      The odds of being charged for lying on the form are virtually nonexistent. In the 2019 fiscal year, when Hunter Biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on Form 4473 — and filed just 298 cases. The numbers were roughly similar for fiscal 2020. At issue is when Biden answered “no” on the question that asks about unlawful drug use and addiction when purchasing a gun.

      https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/few-prosecutions-for-lying-on-atf-gun-purchase-form

      How’s that moral high horse ride for ya? Winning any elections? No?

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        How many others wrote an autobiography confessing to the crimes though?

        The reason gun laws are so unenforceable, is you have to be a complete moron and confess or you won’t lose a trial

        Hunter didn’t just confess, he put it in a book and sold it, then did press tours admitting to it

        He knew it was illegal, he knew the reason others don’t get caught is they dont admit to it

        But Hunter believed he was above the law despite his dad saying the opposite.

        And at the end of the day the 50+ year old crackhead has a former grasp on reality than the US president.

        When Biden said :

        No one is above the law

        We should have demanded he step down immediately, no sane person in America believes that shit. Either he was lying (again) or he’s that far gone.