• MiDaBa@lemmy.ml
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    What an idiot. Does he not realize talking about banning guns is the number one way to motivate right wingers? The US is NOT going to ban guns especially with the current Supreme Court. This is an example of his old team running old plays that haven’t been successful since the 90s. He needs to go before he causes any more damage to his party.

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    Bernie had this right. Despite being pretty progressive, he wasn’t for outlawing semiautomatic firearms because they were black and looked scary. He believed that the right to arms was justified. This “AR Ban” is a great way to lose a lot of independents, and even some hard D voters like myself. There are a lot of dems who carry, and a lot of them who own the very firearms he wants to ban.

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    Anyone looking to ban weapons must not believe Jan 6th was a genuine insurrection.

    Why, oh why, would you disarm the people and give the state a monopoly on violence when that state is teetering on the edge of fascism.

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      Maybe because

      A) The AR15 is just cute if it comes to battling the US armed forces. Anyone thinking they can have an insurrection by not taking over the army, but instead having civilians with AR15’s fighting the US armed forces (or even the police forces) is just… Cute. Also, again, insurrections require less weapons and more planning, connections, popularity, that sort of thing.

      B) most of those weapons are used by the very people supporting a fascist government. All these “government evil!” types are dumb as fuck and voting for Trump.

      C) AR15 weapons have been used (and continue to be used damn near weekly) in mass shootings that has killed hundreds of children.

      Americans have shown one thing for sure: they can’t be trusted to use weapons safely, securely and responsibly. If you can’t take care of your toys (because thats what they are for most people, big boy toys) we take your toys away.

      Take a single look at any other western country and you’ll find that (barring perhaps Switzerland, where they are extremely responsible with laws and culture) they all van weapons and this shit simply. doesn’t. happen. How? There are no mass murder weapons freely available.

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        The AR15 is just cute if it comes to battling the US armed forces. Anyone thinking they can have an insurrection by not taking over the army, but instead having civilians with AR15’s fighting the US armed forces (or even the police forces) is just… Cute. Also, again, insurrections require less weapons and more planning, connections, popularity, that sort of thing.

        Remember the middle east? Remember vietnam? A bunch of poverty stricken farmers kicked our asses. And with a US rebellion, you can bet theres going to be at least a few traitors in the military

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    Biden is doing this to drive a wedge into Republicans. The gun nuts and the ones that don’t care about guns will have differing opinions because now gun violence affects them directly. It’s really smart.

    Biden looks presidential. Trump has three choices:

    1. Come out against AR-15s, for obvious reasons. This makes gun nuts less likely to vote for him.

    2. Come out in favor of AR-15s. He looks insane to Republicans who don’t care about guns.

    3. Trump ignores the issue or waffles and looks unpresidential.

    Number 3 is most likely. Of course the correct answer is number 4: propose a competing policy that is nuanced. But that’s impossible for trump.

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      It’s just dumb. The sniper that killed the guy wasn’t using an ar-15. Stopping ar-15’s wouldn’t have done anything to change something like this.

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      Gun control, especially banning the most popular and utilitarian platform, is a massive political loser. This is incredibly poor timing for a struggling campaign.

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          The AR platform is highly customizable for different chamberings, sizes, attachments etc.

          People who are “into guns” usually have at least one pistol or rifle that is built on the AR platform. ARs are great for everything from target shooting as well as hunting. Very practical.

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    As a foreign, I don’t know why US need to buy real AR-15 at home.

    If you want to play, buy Airsoft. If you want to hunt, buy a rifle.

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    Time to force registration of guns. Time to force psych evals for gun owners. I own two guns. One is a SKS I bought in 1990. Although considered a assault rifle it is nothing more than a semi automatic hunting rifle. I would gladly submit to what I propose in order to ensure that some broken soul doesn’t have access to a weapon. Anyone who is against accountability in this matter is probably a danger.

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    Just as dumb as when Beto said it before his election…

    It’ll never pass, and he thinks saying it will get votes, but all it does is motivate idiots to vote trump, even tho he actually did an executive action to try and close a loophole.

    It might not have stood, but it worked for a couple of years.

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    It seems like such a lazy non-solution. Essentially telling shooters “Hey, from now on, you can only use ALL THE OTHER GUNS” as if that solves something.

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      This is the problem. All banning the AR will do is drive the popularity of another platform up. There’s a crapload of powerful semi-auto customizable platforms out there, it’s just that the AR variant is the most popular. It’s a stupid solution because it’s no solution at all - and I don’t mean that as a “not good enough so we should do nothing at all” thing, it’s just a completely pointless solution.

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          The AK is a global weapon for sure. My commentary deals with the popularity of US gun platforms because that’s the country whose laws we’re talking about. So the global popularity of the AK isn’t really directly relevant.

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            Well sure, but the reason I brought it up is that I’m not entirely certain that the AK or M-16 aren’t more owned in the US than the AR. AR has only been standard issue for the military since after I got out in 2004. I would wager there are far more AKs and M-16s in private hands than ARs

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              You’d be wrong. The AR platform is the civilian version of the M-16/M-4. And the flat-top carbine length version of the M16A4, called the M4, was standard issue for infantry units being deployed since at least 1999. They were increasingly being sold to civilians in semi-auto only configurations right up to the 1994 Assault weapons ban that named them specifically. That just resulted in a bunch of AR platforms with different names that narrowly skirted the rules of the ban, called “Compliant ARs”. After 2004, when the ban expired, sales of AR’s seem to take off because now they can sell freely under the AR name that got a ton of publicity. And now in 2024 they’re going to start selling the AR platform in Sig’s new 6.8mm flavor. To be fair the Spear itself is different enough it some people may not considerate it an Armalite platform. Other would argue it’s an AR-16 platform.

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                Technically, the AR was around before the M-16.

                The M-16 is the military version of the rifle, not the other way around.

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    Braindead take, is Biden gonna come to my rescue when some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch?