I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because “Linux can’t play games” despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can’t even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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    1 year ago

    People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

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      Try doing it on a b650 motherboard that’s so new the windows installer doesn’t even have the correct ahci drivers

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          Gigabyte apparently. They have drivers on their website. Windows 11 just wanted to be extremely picky about the storage device I used. There was probably a cd with drivers in the motherboard box but who tf has a cd drive these days? Just formatting ntfs on any flash drive is apparently not good enough. Also, no matter which version of the drivers I used, unchecking “hide incompatible drivers” was the only way to make anything ever show up. I’m 100% sure I was using the correct ones for the exact motherboard model and revision number.

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        I bought a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and an Asrock X670E, I was upgrading and just transferred my Windows install but still… No issues.

        I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

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          I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

          I think so too and no offense meant to OP as well.

          I am an early adopter of all things tech and so I had a Gigabyte Xtreme X670E mobo on pretty much day 1 to go with a 7950X. Everything worked fine on both Windows 11 and Linux despite being a pimped-up mobo and brand new CPU. At this much later date, OP’s B650 mobo should be working without a hitch, especially with Windows (and almost certainly with Linux as well).

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      You missed the part where you either sign in with your Microsoft account or cut your Internet, remove the webcam, fake your own death, and do the secret tap code in the bios to just have the OS without letting Microsoft into your butthole.

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        Windows 11 doesn’t force you do any of that. Just skip the sign in. Your points were valid in 8/10 era but no more.

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          It depends on the version, but yes, it does. It’s especially a problem on prebuilt machines and laptops. It is incredibly annoying to work with in a corporate environment. Our helpdesk tech comes to me with issues related to this probably three times a week. I gave up with work arounds and we just have a throwaway Microsoft account now.

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            There is a secret command you can do to setup without Internet. But they hide it on the startup command line.

            On the “Oops, you’ve lost internet connection” or “Let’s connect you to a network” page, use the “Shift + F10” keyboard shortcut.

            In Command Prompt, type the OOBE\BYPASSNRO command to bypass network requirements on Windows 11 and press Enter.

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              You can just enter a fake Microsoft account and password. When it doesn’t work, it gives the option to continue with an offline account (or at least whatever version I installed did)

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          I just installed 11 recently. There isn’t a skip button anymore. I had to enter fake sign in details for it to give me the “offline” option.

          So it seems like their point may still stand.

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            Someone pointed out that Pro version still doesn’t require sign in. I’ve only dealt with Pro and didn’t know it’s different than Home in this thing. Sorry for being overly confident.

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      Nah you have to spend at least an hour researching how to not create an account (spoiler: ther is no option, you just have to not connect it to the internet)

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      It’s a joke post. Which makes it extra funny, and quite sad, how many of the comment seem to think it’s serious and are unironically chiming in with complaints.

      OPs username is “Peter Poopshit”, I wouldn’t take anything they post seriously.

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        Several people thinking this post is too stupid to possibly be real because they think linux users are smart says everything you need to know about this community.