Imagine caring what app other people use.
You’re not a real Linux user unless you bitch about other people’s software choices
I’m a Linux user and I already have Sync for lemmy lifetime pass. Am I not real
Fellow linux and Sync supporter here, I think we real
i refuse to believe you’re real if you spent 20 bucks on a Liftoff clone to have what everyone else gets for free (no ads)
Yea someone already said the truth but Sync has been around way longer than that liftoff clone.
your choice in software sucks
arch btw
/s
They bitch because they care. /s
Xbox and sony fanboys chipping in
And mac users
I care in the sense that if a lot of other people are happy with a different client, I want to try it myself.
Imagine caring about people caring
Imagine caring about people imagining people caring about people caring.
Did I spell caring right? It really doesn’t look right anymore.
Weird. I downloaded synch and didnt pay a cent. Is there a pay version?
they mean free as in freedom,
There’s a free ad version, non-ad version($20), and extra feature version ($100/life, $16/yr, $2?/mo)
Yeah it’s free, but the ad-free version is 20 quid and the Ultra version is a laughable 100 quid
I mean, I used Sync for Reddit for 8 years, so considering the costs on a pet year basis…
Seriously why are there so many posts about this? Let it go, people
The more popular your personal favorite app is, the more attention it will get from developers, this making your app better.
See, it’s not just about caring about somebody else’s preferences.
Kinda throws the chrome comparison out the window
Which chrome comparison?
Oh sorry, there is another comment where someone compared this to Firefox and Chrome
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Yeah it’s not like that the majority of people using e.g. Chrome over FOSS alternative like Firefox has any repercussions, why would we care, right?
Nobody is forcing you to use sync, hell nobody is even asking you to try it. So why not stop being one of the spiteful angry assholes that is driving people away from Lemmy.
Interesting that you got “spiteful angry asshole” from my comment lol
Yeah, I was wondering where that part of the comment came from as well…
“Spiteful angry asshole” is a dumb response. I agree with everything else.
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Sure but it’s the same concept of why we should care what others are using, which was what the comment I replied to critisized.
I really don’t get the hate. Use whatever TF you want to and makes you happy. JFC.
The hate would stem from the utter spam of every possible fucking instance with “Hey, Sync is out and the fucking best!! Spend your money!”
Almost like people are excited about it
I like that people are excited about it. I like that people are excited about FOSS. I hate all the posts that try to tell people that one is better than the other.
The issue comes down to not everyone wanting to see the same content. I use sync and don’t care about seeing posts for it. Upvote, hide read, move on.
But if you don’t care about sync it can be understandably annoying. Everyone has different preferences
Almost like they could all get excited in a mega thread… We did it for Musk spam.
That’s their prerogative, I still find it obnoxious.
Only $99.99 ! What a deal!
For lifetime. Single purchase. It’s $17 a year. To support an incredibly small development team which were kicked off Reddit without any way to stay. Yeah, I’d pay some money to help a dude put food on the table.
And if you just want to remove ads it’s about $20 for a lifetime too.
$99.99 which comes out to about 6 years of paying the yearly fee. I paid $5 for Sync back in 2014 and I got 9 years of free updates and no ads until reddit killed sync.
If you’re planning to use Lemmy for at least six years, the $100 is a steal, especially since I feel we can reasonably expect the same level of quality of life improvements and updates that Sync got with Reddit.
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Feels like OP is referring to the more direct hate that Sync is getting on other posts that this post, while not hating directly, definitely taps into.
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You can support FOSS devs, too.
When there’s a FOSS app as good as sync, sure.
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Why make this comment? They didn’t say they weren’t going to.
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They are in more need of it.
Literally zero FOSS apps that are even half as good as Sync.
Okay, I won’t push you from Sync. But if you have the money to remove its ads, please also consider supporting Lemmy directly or indirectly (Mozilla, among other things, funded the effort to find and patch TootRoot before it became a problem). If you don’t want to just donate, switching to Mozilla VPN will also help.
One of my issues with Lemmy so far is how meta it is.
Reddit is often meta, sure, but 60% of the content I’m seeing here (while browsing Everything) is about how much better Lemmy is or whatever app people are using to access it. Let’s get back to shitposting, articles, and memes please. I want this platform to work and I don’t think it will if this content continues.
Your problem is browsing Everything. There’s a lot of content on Lemmy that isn’t meta-posting - you just need to curate your own feed, like on Reddit.
Subscribe to some more casual places for a funner frontpage.
Thanks. On reddit when I was bored of my frontpage I’d go on /r/all to check out other subs and maybe subscribe if I liked the content. That has been my strat here and it isn’t panning out so far. Looks like I gotta change it up.
Thanks for this. Now I just have to hope some of the communities I briefly looked through like the history related ones don’t suffer from usdefaultism. It seems like meta and defaultism kills all interests for me.
Thanks for this!
Everything on Lemmy is cancer
Edit: I’m obviously talking about the “Everything” tab, curated Lemmy is great.
Lemmy is still fairly new to most people here and most of these new people came from reddit. A group of people who majorly are having a single, shared, novel experience (moving from reddit to Lemmy) are gonna talk about that thing until it stops being novel.
It’s already getting considerably less meta so I’d just enjoy it for what it is, contribute content to the communities you like, and just allow the meta conversations to naturally subside.
Yeah, because why should app developers get paid, right? They should all code for free at their local public library. Maybe live in a big ceramic jar like Diogenes.
“Free” as in “freedom”, not price. There’s nothing stopping somebody from making money on FOSS.
Goddam Richard Stallman really screwed the PR up on that one with the “free” thing.
The F in FOSS stands for free, IIRC. The ability to access, use, share the code, etc. has more to do with the open source part of the acronym. I haven’t really seen anyone complain about Sync being closed sourced so far… Just that you have to pay not to see ads.
Ive only ever seen FOSS developers get support through donations. Which is nice and all, but likely not enough for an independent developer like ljdawson to survive on alone.
Dont get me wrong, I like FOSS apps too, but the experience almost always suffers to some degree; its easy to see why. I just don’t get why Sync is being singled out like some kind of evil tech monopoly lately. As far as I can tell, its just an individual developer who released a great app for free (yes with ads, you’re the product, blah blah blah) with an optional lifetime payment to disable ads completely.
Free refers to freedom, not price. No part of “FOSS” has anything to do with money or price.
Well then what’s the issue? Because every complaint I’ve seen so far has been about the optional monetary facet.
I think people are complaining about ads because ads imply tracking. I don’t know, I use Jerboa because I value the four freedoms, I’m not out here protesting non-free apps because the free apps work well enough for me.
AFAIK the way ad revenue works is dependent on trackers. Paying to remove ads on Sync also removes all trackers according to many people who have tested it; still seems to come down to not wanting to pay the developer.
Which is fine, of course. I just think framing the app as sketchy or something is completely misguided.
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Are Sync Free and Sync Paid Edition separate apps? Because if not, you still have some ad publishers framework on your phone and running. I’d guess it’s Google, which means play services are required. That’s a big no-go for degoogled Linux users.
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And companies think free in open source as in free labor.
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When you figure out how to make a living writing FOSS let me know
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I wouldn’t sweat it too much, The fact that someone could make money on this gets in the way of their narrative.
I don’t really mind that sync is closed source you should be able to have the freedom to use whatever you want and all it is is more choice but I’ll be damned if I’m going to use it.
Like who? Making an actual living I mean, not just collecting small donations to ‘buy them a coffee’ or whatever.
Not saying you’re wrong, but some examples would be welcome.
Edit: Down voting me for asking a question, lol. Way to demonstrate your dedication to that free and open philosophy you apparently advocate for, folks.
See: RedHat devs and all the FOSS orgs that actually pay devs to work on their shit.
Google, Meta, and AMD have people on their to team they pay for development on FOSS projects because their operations rely upon them, so they have a vested interest in maintaining them.
So the best solution to make a living as a FOSS developer is to… Work for some giant tech monopoly who engages in sketchy consumer practices on a regular basis?
AFAIK Sync was created by a single person, so I doubt he’s getting paid by anyone other than fans of the app and ad revenue. I’ll look into RedHat though, I appreciate you taking the time to provide an actual example.
Not a problem. Also FOSS orgs pay their devs as well. Off the top of my head OS developers with a large userbase often pay their devs through donations to foundations that fund the project. Often donors are companies as well, but it gives a developer the option to get paid without working for a massive company.
(I suppose indirectly they do, but that’s a whole different ball of wax)
He means provide an example of a single indie Dev doing it. You’re being obtuse because you know that there’s no one.
I don’t understand. I reread back to the top comment and went down the chain. They made a rhetorical question about how devs of software being paid. Someone clarified the definition of Foss. Then there was a an inquiry about how someone could make a living with FOSS software and another commenter claiming millions do it (which a majority are these exact devs I pointed out).
I simply gave the list, that’s all.
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Not writing, but building:
https://www.tindie.com/stores/bmoreautomation/
Open source hardware is a thing too. It’s not many sales now but I’m still in the prototyping phase and actively changing things.
Okay, I won’t push you from Sync. But if you have the money to remove its ads, please also consider supporting Lemmy directly or indirectly (Mozilla, among other things, funded the effort to find and patch TootRoot before it became a problem). If you don’t want to just donate, switching to Mozilla VPN will also help.
I’ve tried a few of the other apps, and didn’t like them that much. Sync is the first one I actually liked. Not sure if I want to pay for it, though
You can have both!
In my experience you can have:
- Good app that is free with ads,
- Good app that is paid without ads,
- Shit to mediocre app that is free without ads.
I’ve tried many alternatives, but so far the intuitiveness and beautiful UX of Sync stand apart from the competition for me. I respect FOSS apps, and even prefer them in some cases. But let’s not pretend that its the best approach for every developer, or that anyone who releases a non-FOSS app is automatically greedy or sketchy.
I’ve been happy with Liftoff.
I was happy with connect. Then I craved for foss. Now I’m torn between summit, thunder and arctius (formerly fennec)
Btw slide for lemmy just dropped. It still lacks community blocking. But it’s nice, similar to lift off.
What the deuce is FOSS
Free open source software
You better start believing in Foss…🏴☠️🦑🏴☠️ you’re in one
Ah sweet so I’m already covered
Isn’t summit proprietary?
I believe it is foss. But you can verify it if you like.
https://github.com/idunnololz/summit-for-lemmy/blob/main/LICENSE
the page on github only has the icon and the APKs, there is no source code. Perhaps the Apache licence is only applied to the icon? I don’t know… alternativeto.net marks it as proprietary
Ok, so there’s no definitive answer.
But nevertheless, I’ve been tinkering with infinity for lemmy and I think I will choose this as my main app for the moment.
In fact I am replying to you using infinity. I really do enjoy this app after I’ve finished customizing it, the settings took me more than 30 minutes because of the sheer number of combinations I had to try.
But after I finished setting up, it is a joy to use.
I have few to zero complaints with it
Is your community overview morking, for me it always gives an error recently
It really only gives me errors if the server is throwing errors
But it works on jerboa
I can’t type on Jerboa is the thing. And how would Jerboa display something if the server throws an error? That doesn’t make sense to me
Seeing the Sync for lemmy pricing, I just sent 20 USD to the Lemmy/Jerboa devs for offering all this for free!
I think the “hot take” that needs to be said here - and surprisingly I have not come across it yet - is that it’s totally fine if you’re willing to pay 20 dollars for the app.
However, please remember that the app itself is not self contained. It relies on the hard work of the Lemmy developers and the instance you use staying online. Please consider sending them some money as well down the line. If you get the app for 20 dollars as a one time payment, maybe some future payments - even if considerably smaller - can go towards the latter.
I’m using Sync free version and $20 seems pretty steep for me. I like it but not sure about that price compared to ad free versions of other apps.
I am already donating to my instance though 😄
I did the opposite. The moment I saw Sync for Lemmy available to download I installed it and immediately purchased Ultra because bless LJ for making the superior app. He deserves getting paid for his work. And it’s not like he requires you to pay for the app. It’s free for everyone, you just get some additional features if you are willing to pay and by doing that you also support the developer. So I decided to support him. I’ve been using Sync for Reddit before and I knew I needed this app for Lemmy. Now I feel home.
It is not free if I pay with my data.
I’m also a huge believer in open source. I’m using Infinity for Lemmy right now but I gladly paid for the ad removal in Sync. It genuinely is the best Lemmy app out right now. It just works and has so many customization options. Not to mention, since Sync uses Google for ads, when you remove the ads, the ad component isnt initialized so you remove the tracking. So nothing to worry about there either. 20$ lifetime for such an awesome app is totally fair for me. That’s my opinion, you are free to disagree.
I used Sync for Reddit since alpha (back when it was Reddit Sync), so I gladly paid the $20 ad removal, even though I also happen to be juggling both Sync and Infinity right now. They’re both so good.
Infinity was my go-to Reddit client. I love it so much.
Thanks for info about Google ads great to know
I’m seeing $99.99 for lifetime.
Edit: I was confusing Ultra with simply removing ads.
What’s important is Lemmy getting adopted doesn’t matter what app people choose.
We have great apps with PWA as Voyager or old Reddit theme with MLMYM.
Never want to use a censored social agregator as Reddit.
Just an FYI for those who aren’t aware, a native Voyager app is available via TestFlight, and it’s very similar to Apollo.
Also already submitted to Playstore , waiting for approval.
Exactly! There’s no entity aside from the instance admin, mods, and you. No corporation trying to maintain an image, no one stopping you from creating other accounts with different identities in other servers… It’s just you and the instances. And if you don’t like one, just go to another one, it’s all up to you!
And I love that it’s going mainstream. Keep it up y’all, let’s keep these instances active
It is important, as closed source software can determine its own defaults, hijacking the initiative and eventually gaining majority. Just like Google is doing with Android and Chromium.
Threads also wants to be part of the fediverse.
I’ve tried pretty much all the FOSS Lemmy apps I could get my hands on but the experience Sync provides is far superior. I’m an ex Boost user and since I couldn’t find Boost for Lemmy I naturally gravitated towards Sync and I’m not looking back.
Boost is making a comeback on lemmy soon too in case you weren’t aware
Yeah, that’s what I’ve been waiting for. But with Sync ready and so many other free options, I’m worried that by the time it comes out, I’ll already have transitioned to something else. Have you heard anything about an ETA for the app?
Sync definitely is far superior. $2 and change per month is more than reasonable to keep developing an app I use so much.
And spying.
Everybody spies. Its not possible to maintain my privacy 100% and still keep the same QoL
True, but you can make exceptions for necessities. Sync is not a necessity in any shape or form. Things like Windows or Photoshop can be necessities.
As an IOS user, I‘m glad that I get to decide between memmy and memmy. I picked memmy, off course!
There’s more than that now on the App Store in addition to wefwef pwa.
I’m currently jumping between Memmy, Bean, Lemmios and Avelon. Dropped Thunder, Liftoff, Olympus and Lemmotif. There’s actually a lot of options going around, not to mention the several other WPAs being developed too.
Another meme about Sync for Lemmy… You dare today don’t you?
Don’t worry voyager I’ll never leave you and captain Janeway
There’s coffee in that fediverse
Product is king.
Inertia is also in play.
Sync for Lemmy is built by the same guy that built sync for Reddit. Built using seemingly a lot of the same code.
I bounced between all the open source apps and have started using sync for Lemmy because it’s familiar and it works. It also seems to be much faster than the others, maybe due to more aggressive caching/prefetching? Or that could be a placebo effect.
I was always having weird issues with jebora and the rest of them, and was not a fan of Voyager’s interface.
I might try connect, jebora, etc again a bit later. Might also purchase the one time and remove for sync, might donate to Lemmy instances, etc.
For now I’m just glad to have a familiar interface.
Idk, half the apps look like they are just a fork of one app including sync. Why pay for an app that is mostly just a reskin of an open source project.
I mean… Sync is a fork of Sync.
Cause people like different skins
Yeah totally, I keep a lot of skins in my closet. It’s to get rid of the bodies tho.
What? Lol. I’ve used Sync for almost 10 years now and have seen it evolve. How is it a fork of another app?
It just looks like every other lemmy app. They all look the same with a few things changed and their talking points are so similar from app to app. It’s almost completely impossible to decifer the differences without trying them out. If it wasn’t a fork I wouldn’t know because they are so similar on the play store.
If anything, the Lemmy apps would look like Sync, because obviously Sync has existed way longer, even before Lemmy was even a thing. The more likely reason most of them look the same on Android, is because they’re following some (sometimes older) form of Material Design, the design standard for Android.
It would be easier just to imagine a generic social media app than to copy sync. It would look similar too because sync is pretty generic in feature set, like all social media apps are in feature set. Besides I pay developers for making a good app not paying the developers to make it a good app.
