• notTheCat@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        I think Arch really makes sure stuff are compatible before rolling, my 32bit Void laptop has had Python 3.12 for months, and I get all kind of weird warnings when installing Python packages, while Arch is still on 3.11 (maybe testing is on 3.12 idk)

        • baduhai@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          4 months ago

          There’s that, and there’s also the fact that there’s only so many maintainer volunteer manhours. It happens to every distro, it just so hapenned that NixOS was faster this time. Though OpenSuse and NixOS suffer from this a bit less, as they’ve gone out of their way to automate large parts of their update and testing infrastructure(OpenSuse automates everything, I think?).

    • million@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      4 months ago

      You know, I am fine with it. One of the reasons I am using Tumbleweed is for the additional testing they do, so if they aren’t cool with shipping it yet I can wait.

    • Botzo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      4 months ago

      I upgraded today!

      Encountered only one multimonitor issue with one panel migrating to the primary display after logout/restart, but otherwise, smooth sailing.

      Wayland session even seems stable on Nvidia again (I have nothing but regrets about that GPU choice I made 4 years ago).

          • Fizz@lemmy.nz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            4 months ago

            5.27 Wayland was also broken for me and my 2070s. However kde 6 Wayland seems to be good so far.

      • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        I tried using my Nvidia GPU with Wayland on Plasma 6. For most normal applications it seems fine, however, HDR doesn’t work properly and some games like Minecraft have a flickering image. At least they fixed the blur and flickering in Firefox.

        Using latest Arch Nvidia package.

        • Petar Kulić@mstdn.plus
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          @Botzo
          I upgraded also, had trouble with custom service menus I use, found out by myself now they must be in ~/.local/share/kio/servicemenus/ instead of ~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/, nowhere online anybody says anything about that. Weird.

        • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          Here’s an overview:

          • SDDM crashed with some error about the theme: I haven’t looked into it yet though. For the time being I disabled SDDM and reverted to console login and startx.

          • All my kwin window rules stopped working. Apparently, the window title matching string now should include the window class (i.e. “urxvt URxvt” instead of just “urxvt”), so I had to redo all my window rules.

          • ksysguard is gone, together with all my customized monitoring pages and its replacement plasma-systemmonitor is broken. It’s complaining about missing sensors, and core dumps on some screens.

          • Some of my custom keyboard shortcuts were not working anymore. Had to reconfigure them.

          • Desktop overview is gone, replaced with something that has less functionality: I can move windows from the currently selected desktop to another one, but I can’t drag windows between desktops.

          • The Breeze theme now shows a very thick (and IMO ugly) outline by default. Thankfully you can tune or disable it in the settings.

          • Floating taskbar by default is also not my thing, but easy enough to disable. New “edit mode” feels a bit janky though.

          • When navigating between panes in System settings, it often shows the “apply settings” dialog even when no settings have been changed. Stop gaslighting me ksystemsettings, I know what I clicked.

          • Resizing the window of some (but not all) applications now produces a kind of rubber banding effect: like the contents of the window get stretched and then snap back into place multiple times during the resize. It looks and feels really janky. It doesn’t appear to affect QT and GTK applications, and Firefox isn’t affected either. Applications that are affected: chrome/chromium, vscode, freetube, tigervnc, urxvt, xterm and all the x* utilties. Turning off compositing “fixes” it, but who wants to run a desktop without compositing nowadays?

          • Screen locking is completely broken. When I press Meta+L, instead of simply showing me the lockscreen, the display turns off and starts to flicker on and off multiple times while showing just a black screen and a mouse cursor. After a while the lockscreen does appear, and I can type my password to unlock but instead of showing me my desktop it dumps me back to a black screen with a mouse cursor. After a while, if I’m lucky, the desktop reappears. One time my entire system froze and rebooted (!) before I got my desktop back, and I lost my unsaved work. I disabled automatic desktop locking for the time being, and am fighting against my muscle memory to press Meta+L whenever I leave my desk.

          Especially the last two are bothering me.

          • MrMcGasion@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 months ago

            There is still a desktop overview that allows dragging windows between virtual desktops (Meta+G) unfortunately when they removed the old overview, they forgot to fully integrate the new overview, so it can’t be activated by screen edges (which is how I used to access the old desktop overview).

            • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              4 months ago

              Yeah I found that, but it seems that it can’t arrange my desktops in a 3x2 grid. A 6x1 grid makes the desktop miniwindows a bit small.

  • Pumpkin Escobar@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    4 months ago

    One really annoying problem, in firefox the mouse cursor position is wrong. Clicking in firefox clicks on the thing 30-ish pixels above my mouse. I noticed that it only happens when firefox is snapped to the left or right half of the screen (of course that’s how I almost always use it). I can fix it if I maximize firefox then snap it left or right. 100% scaling on the monitor, nothing funky, reset theme/appearance, reset my firefox profile, etc…

    Hopefully it gets sorted soon

  • Eggyhead@kbin.run
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    I’m absolutely new to Linux (thanks to steam deck, which I think is arch Linux), what is KDE 6? Is that like a new OS update? Are there any implications for steam deck users?

      • Eggyhead@kbin.run
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        4 months ago

        Thank you for making such a thoughtful response! Out of curiosity, does this mean KDE actually runs on other distros of Linux as well? Until now, I had been under the impression that KDE was just arch Linux itself. Would you happen to know a good way for me to learn more about Linux, and how to put it to good use from a beginner’s perspective?

        • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          4 months ago

          Followup on the other person’s response - I don’t actually know of any modern desktop distro that doesn’t support KDE. That’s not because distros go out of their way to package KDE, but simply because at the end of the day, KDE is simply a fullscreen app (with a heck of a lot of functionality), and if you can compile code, you can compile and run KDE.

        • socialpankakemix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          4 months ago

          to answer your question KDE is not arch. Linux has a bunch of distros, you can think of one as a collection of packages. some distros want to do things one way some want to do it others.

          the biggest difference between distros for most users are mostly desktop environments and package managers. KDE is the desktop enrollment, there are many others that you could also use, like gnome, or use none at all and only use the terminal. the package manager is how you get new packages and update the ones you already have. examples are apt and pacman.

          you can make any distro work like another by installing the same packages, although this may not always be the easiest to do. an easy way to change your experience with Linux is to try a different desktop environment, you can run multiple on the same distro and switch between them, see what you like.

        • Tattorack@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          4 months ago

          Yes. I’m running Ubuntu and I have recently changed the desktop environment from Gnome to KDE.

  • MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    I installed it on my endeavour laptop last night and apart from reconfiguring my dock-like panel and weather widget, it’s all been plain sailing so far. Now I just need Tumbleweed to release it so I can update my main desktop!

  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    4 months ago

    I also switched to Wayland for a surprise challenge. And for the extra spice, I also have a Kwin script called Polonium, which supports Plasma 6 only in the current dev version directly from git. Some widgets do not work, but all in all, it’s relatively stable so far and I will get through it.

    Good luck everybody.

  • x2XS2L0U@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    4 months ago

    Other than messing with my scaling and two incompatible applets it just runs absolutely fine. Glad I waited for a week - was thinking about installing it from testing.

    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Yeah I had a similar experience, it forgot my wifi login for some reason and there were a couple of minor theme/widget glitches, which was fully expected because my system is pretty customized, but other than that it was completely smooth. Maybe half an hour or so of tinkering from updating to being back to normal.

  • businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    i upgraded last night! and when i booted up this morning, i was unable to log into any accounts in the login screen lol. if anyone else has a similar issue where the only option login screen gives you is wayland and that doesnt work for you or you want to use x11, what fixed it for me was installing plasma-meta as for whatever reason that wasn’t on my system at the time. this allowed me to select x11 again from the login screen and my system is working as normal.

    i know we’re still in early days of plasma 6, but does anyone know any good calendar/weather/time widgets that i can replace this one with? https://store.kde.org/p/998901/ haven’t found another good calendar widget yet.