I don’t wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, but I’m sorry nobody should have to go around wearing anything like this, no matter what faith you come from. You should have the freedom to EXIST as yourself and show who you are. This niqab stuff is abuse.
I do wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, so I’ll just say that religion is the greatest evil ever created by humankind.
Was just about to say. Fuck organized religion, fuck tolerating bigotry and intolerance in the name of acceptance and pluralism. Religion is something to be overcome not assimilated.
IMO religion shouldn’t exist in 21st Century.
We have machines going beyond solar system, scientific evidence that earth revolves around Sun , ability to interact with people on the other side of globe instantly and more…
None of these things have religion ever predicted. And sometimes even being grossly wrong.
So you’re telling me that killing hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions over the years in the name of some character which no one has any physical evidence exists and the people that follow along subconsciously know it’s fake however they are too afraid of not having some fictional guiding light is bad??? You’re wrong, Jesus saves!!!¡¡!¡!!! /s
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Modern society could not have formed without religion. So yeah, it’s hell.
What matters is that they can’t get education and economic independence, who gives a shit about dress codes
To me forcing the girls to cover their faces is another shit thing done to them.
Yes, but it is a very minor shit thing. It is literally just aesthetic and all cultures have dress norms.
Forcing women to cover themselves up from head to toe is a bit more than just a “dress norm”. Should be able to choose.
How is it different?
People’s spiritual belief should be limited to themselves, the moment you enforce your religious rules on anyone else it’s no longer OK and should be disparaged. Everyone should have the freedom to dress as a beekeeper, no one should have the obligation to do so.
We need to pat ourselves on our back that we got out of there.
Were you raised Muslim? I’m an ex Catholic lol.
No religion.
We don’t really want your values or morals. I don’t care about hijab, but the West has nothing of value to offer Muslim women.
Even as a Saudi I feel it is not my place to police Afghans. Their country, their business. At least they aren’t sending bastard soldiers to invade other countries.
You have your culture, they have theirs. You should be more concerned with US and NATO war crimes, rather than policing the culture of people who just want to be left alone.
The West is welcome [not really] to try spending 2.4 trillion dollars and 20 years in Afghanistan again. Maybe one more bomb is all it takes to make them westernize… ;)
“Don’t concern yourself with (issue), concern yourself with (another issue).”
Afghanistan could have been further developed by now if the US didn’t occupy it for 20 years.
Progress is happening regardless. Afghanistan now for example has local photovoltaic solar panel production.
I’m not going to stop caring about women because Afghanistan has solar panels. To me that’s absurd.
To me it is absurd that western countries don’t care for their own people but pretend to care about people half way across the world. It is all a scam to sell wars to the people and you fell for it. If you want Afghanistan to develop and progress leave it alone. You tried establishing a puppet state and it collapsed immediately, count your losses and move on.
Why do you assume I don’t care for my own people?
If you want Afghanistan to develop and progress leave it alone.
I’m sorry but I just find it hard to not care about the despicable treatment of women there. It’s messed up. Me not caring about the women there is not going to benefit them.
You tried establishing a puppet state and it collapsed immediately, count your losses and move on.
I tried?
Why do you assume I don’t care for my own people?
The degrading conditions and quality of life in most western countries suggest that the people don’t care.
I’m sorry but I just find it hard to not care about the despicable treatment of women there. It’s messed up. Me not caring about the women there is not going to benefit them.
If your care is sincere there are ways to help other than building up a narrative for sanctions or invasions. There was a point in time when Saudi Arabia was rural and conservative, with time it has developed, and now females outperform males in academic achievement. For another example, look at nearby Iran which has an urban and educated population.
Do you know anything about material and socioeconomic conditions? Afghanistan haven’t had a moment of political stability, and was never given a chance.
I tried?
Western states are democracies aren’t they? Their actions reflect the will of the people. Though you may be from the countries that didn’t join the US-led invasion.
Your entire post and comment history is political. You should get a hobby.
Maybe their hobby is politics.
Dooogg whiisstlleeesss!!
[email protected] is political?
[email protected] is political?
They mean not white when they say political
I’m not sure I follow your logic?
Just look at how controversial this post was https://lemmy.ml/post/9629138
The only reason it got downvoted was because it was a 5G speed demo in Saudi Arabia. But I hold Lemmy is still better than Reddit. In Reddit you couldn’t post anything about any Arab or Muslim country without the comment section being toxic.
Did you consider the fact that it’s useless content that probably breaks Rule #2 on that community?
Regarding your other hobbies, those posts don’t federate to my instance, so I’m sorry I didn’t see you have an interest in music and religion. If I may correct my initial statement from “Your entire” to “90% of”.
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I didn’t realize all 2 billion of them lived in Afghanistan
You are such a judgmental and bigoted fellow. Enjoy your enlightened democracy.
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And you don’t have HSR or free healthcare. I finished university like most Saudis with money saved. In Saudi Arabia the university pays you, I’d rather have this than a false choice between 99% Hitler and 100% Hitler. Go beg your government for student loan forgiveness.
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Too bad US had to overthrow the socialist secular government in Afghanistan and then subject it to decades of unending destruction. US regime is directly responsible for everything we see happening in Afghanistan today.
They did have some not so great time trying to prevent Taliban from gaining power. It wasn’t very succesful.
And of course the Taliban itself is what the CIA turned Mujahideen into.
No, that’s on Afghans themselves. US armed the mujahideen fighters and a faction of that diverse group later on formed Taliban (and their opposition)
Learn some history ignoramus.
I love and promote life-long education for all peoples. This sucks. I can’t imagine how much it sucks to be told you “can’t.”
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In September 2021, a month after U.S. and NATO troops withdrew from Afghanistan following two decades of war, the Taliban announced that girls were barred from studying beyond sixth grade.
The Taliban have defied global condemnation and warnings that the restrictions will make it almost impossible for them to gain recognition as the country’s legitimate rulers.
Last week, U.N. special envoy Roza Otunbayeva expressed concern that a generation of Afghan girls is falling behind with each day that passes.
Last week, an official in the Education Ministry said Afghan girls of all ages are allowed to study in religious schools known as madrassas, which have traditionally been boys-only.
In another part of Kabul, 13-year old Setayesh Sahibzada wonders what the future holds for her.
Analyst Muhammad Saleem Paigir warned that excluding women and girls from education will be disastrous for Afghanistan.
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Sometimes I really need to have these news thrown on my face, is incredible that we tend to forget these situations most of the time
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This is what you are asking for in Gaza if you support the Palestinians. They want this bullshit world wide, they don’t even hide it either.
Feel bad for these people who suffer under religious rule. It holds back so many world changing minds. I know women who escaped Iran, who’s now funding Islamic jihadism in the region, and gone on to literally world changing Alzheimer’s research that’s making people’s lives better. Had she stayed in one of these backwards shit hole misogynistic countries, we would never benefit from her mind. That’s only part of the problem with this garbage.
