Not all of us. Some of us hate it more than you do. We are however too poor to actually fucking leave.
I’d love to travel. See the world. Experience cultures instead of look at them longingly thru a screen. Alas, its not an option. Even if I wanted to physically leave I can’t afford to pay to get rid of citizenship and get established somewhere else.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about America, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about America over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” meme was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Least aggressive response.
It’s a copypasta meant to make fun of overly aggressive keyboard warriors but yeah, it’s very un-chill indeed 😁
Holy shit, its been a while since I read this.
I love the gorilla warfare bit 🦍
Ever heard of guerilla gardening? I give you…a gorilla gardening!
This is starting to turn into gorilla marketing
You mean like this?
Assbro turfing
Stars and Stripes out for Harambe.
Non-americans really love this weird bogus narrative.
That’s probably because the loudest and most overly defensive ones are the Americans you’re most likely to encounter and remember in online arguments and on American news, so that colors the perception. Especially when you don’t live amongst the more reasonable majority of Americans 🤷
That is not my experience at all. Most Americans get extremely defensive when someone criticizes the US, even people who know better. Many are ok with specific criticism (like, healthcare sucking), but it doesn’t take much for them to revert to 'murican mode.
I have been living in the US for over a decade and been to 2/3rds of the states.
That’s really interesting. I’ve lived in 9 states and I can honestly say that outside of the southeast, it is legitimately difficult to consistently find people that dont think the us is a flaming sack of shit or at least headed that way. Seriously, I’ve heard waaaaaaaaaaaaay more negative talk on the us from Americans than anything positive. Especially in like the last decade. But this place is so damn big that anyone’s experience would vary a crazy amount so that makes sense.
Are you in tech or some other field that doesn’t involve interacting with different socioeconomic groups?
Most of not all states guarantee some “interesting” encounters if you leave the cities. In California I have seen Confederate flags flying, met neonazis, and plenty of Trump supporters. Trump got over 34% of the vote in California, almost 39% in Washington and over 40% in Oregon. Those percentages are not a majority, but I think it sets a floor, since Trump supporters are not exactly trash talking the US.
I have spent a lot of time doing canvassing and other activities that mean I encounter people with very different ideas, so that would definitely explain the different experience.
well if an american does respond to this it proves them right if they dont respond it doesnt prove them wrong its a bad argument for an otherwise pretty dumb claim
unless americans do care i hate america and am american so idrk
If I ever have to read the bogus claim that “USA #1!!!” I’ll flip my shit.
#1 in teen pregnancies maybe
#1 in prison population
#1 in school shootings
#1 in wage gap
What the US is not #1 in: happiness, progressiveness, quality of life, freedom
True. While it’s NEAR the top in SOME good things, I’m pretty sure that the US is only #1 in the ones you mentioned and other bad things lol
I’m starting to get this feeling too. Most of the Americans I know, myself included, rip America a new one at any given opportunity.
There’s a certain degree of truth to it. Americans seem fine with being the butt of a joke as long as the person joking is American and not far left/right. If you offer any doubt about the political or geographic origin of your joke, it’ll often be taken poorly. I enjoy being flamed and so was eager to figure out the political joke context puzzle. +2/-16 and 6 replies, babeeee
Politics is one of the most divisive subjects you can bring up. People react emotionally because it’s an emotional science. What’s “right” comes down to your ethical perspective. I don’t think that should be grouped in with this conversation.
It’s less that I put out an overt political view or location identifier and more that if my post seems agnostic, inferences will be made and a coin will be flipped. The funny thing is, I sometimes win the flip in one place and lose it in another. I can be +5 on lemmy and -10 on kbin because of ambiguity. I’m just like “kids getting shot is bad” and I can feel the hatred pointed at my British self. (I’m not British)
I do believe that’s the response you get, people do like to assume the worst. Do you have any solid proof that any hostile response you get is from Americans? I’m still very skeptical it’s a problem specific to one nation.
It’s far from unique to the US, people from India, France, China, and Russia often despise seeing outside criticism as well and they comprise over half the population of earth. And it’s mostly the topic of conversation and time of day. Were you not to have identified as American earlier, I’d have assumed you to be German or British at this hour.
🤷 As far as I’m concerned, as long as people are laughing with me and not at me I don’t give a shit. I can’t speak for the rest of my countrymen though.
Sometimes it’s a case of you can make fun of your own country but no one else is allowed to.
If we say “Capitalism is ruining our lives”, it’s fine, but if someone from Russia says “Capitalism is ruining your lives”, folks are ready to throw down.
I think that’s more the hypocrisy of a Russian citizen criticizing American-style capitalism and imperialism when Russia has its own brand of it.
Nobody talks more shit about America than Americans.
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I know seriously lmao. I mean I know it’s anecdotal, but I’m in the US and my friends and I constantly criticize the US. Most people I know tend to agree with most criticisms, myself included.
American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it’s the smallest most unoffending thing
Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools
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One of them is a stereotype based on ignorance and racism.
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The other one is children getting shot at schools.
Funny how both of these things come from the US.
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We might overuse that comeback, but at least we don’t have school shootings.
Okay, but you do realize that comeback makes you look bad right, not us? No matter your reasons or intentions, you are mocking children being murdered. Like in the example below:
American: lol British people eat spotted dicks.
A brit: lol American children get shot at school.
Wow. What a zinger, you really got me with that one, a fool I was to not recognize the comedy of children dying horrifically.
(To be clear, I didn’t come up with that example randomly. I’ve seen the mocking of spotted dick be met with “lol child murder” more than once)
They’re mocking us for letting children get murdered. Don’t get all civility politics up in here if you can’t even grasp the concept of the jab.
Is spotted dick political? I suppose us americans should have known it was a contentious subject that warrants jokes about child murder
It’s a fucking ignorant ass jab directed at the wrong people. The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws, it is NOT the common mans fault that our centuries old political system is set up in a way that a minority party can have so much influence.
Like I already said, no matter the reasons or intentions, they ARE mocking children being murdered. Maybe it’s “lol you guys let children die lol” instead of “lol child death lol”, but either way children are dead and they are laughing. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans are horrified by it and pissed off nothing is being done by our government to stop it.
It’s also just incredibly thin-skinned. Really, you’re gonna get so offended over a joke about spotted dick that your only response is “you guys have school shootings lol”.
Your responses make the meme accurate. Bravo.
Americans when literally anything
I’m American and I can confirm this is true
How do you know somebody’s American without meeting them first?
You hear them.
Unless we’re talking protesting or voting. Then they’re asleep.
Nah. Democrats protest, Republicans vote. Funny how one of those groups wields a grossly exaggerated amount of political power.
Huh? Americans are like the most willing to admit their country is shit of like anywhere of the Lemmy audience… America fucking sucks, sign American. I had some dude from Pakistan super mad at me for saying women are second class citizens there the other day. Apparently they treat women super well, according to that angry guy anyway. I’m still pretty sure they don’t.
As always, these things can’t be generalised. Every country has people that talk about their own problems, and every country has “patriots” that will deny anything is happening. There are just a lot of Americans on the internet, so people notice those who relentlessly praise America more.
After all, few countries literally ingrain “[country] exceptionalism” into their population in their school system. Many Americans, while thinking they are pointing out problems, still say “but it’s still better than almost any other country at X”.
Instead of “thinking something is true about an other country” why don’t you research the topic? Laws are easy to find.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_related_laws_in_Pakistan
While yes, there were some Sharia laws back in the 1980’s, many recent laws in the last 20 years have been giving more rights to women.
And that is the problem with many of you Americans, you read something online once about an other country or hear it on one of your news stations, and you instantly believe it without ever checking if it is factual or not.
The same type of people exist in other countries of course, but the blatant ignorance of Americans about other countries is staggering.
XD ah yes, legally it’s the same, so that’s how it shakes out on the ground for sure!
Wait I thought we hated ourselves?
Yeah I thought it was mostly other Americans saying these things
Uh, what? I live here and I shit on it all the time.
Yeah. as an American I shit on America more than anyone. I got no idea what Op is talking abot.
It’s very much more of a
American criticises America: crickets
Non-American criticises America: hooooo boy here comes the nationalism
I haven’t encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.
“Hey, isn’t nati the one that drone strikes weddings?” “No, that the US, that us.” “But america is part of nato…” “Yes, but you can’t just” “Why would nato do that?”
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The Ukraine conflict isn’t a RU - US proxy war in the traditional sense but it’s worth noting that the overwhelming majority of foreign aid to Ukraine has come from the US, more than double the amount of aid given by the EU as a whole. It’s not hard to assume that Ukraine would be in a much worse place without America’s support.
Yea, of course it has, the Budapest Memorandum says they have to help, it’s a defensive pact they got in return for giving up nukes. But people are pretending the US is like the instigator and driver of this conflict even though they are literally just one of the countries providing aid to Ukraine.
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Thanks for the block request
good luck with your echo chamber
It usually doesn’t bother me unless it’s something like this
American- criticizes something foreign
Every single reply to that comment- “School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!”
We have other things you can criticize! Like the fact people will give you unsweetened tea with ice then say you can have some sugar packets!
Scourge of the North! Sugar Tea Soup!
Or when they extropolate from America the country being shit, to every individual American being shit for having the audacity to have been born here.
Most of us would also rather it wasn’t like this, but our families, friends, and livelihoods are here, so generally speaking it’s not practical to just up and leave. And our political system is to broken for us to really fix via voting
Trash on the country all you want, I’ll join in with you - but don’t blame the folks who are just trying to live the best we can in this fucked up country
This recently
- French people rude. Haha yeah.
- Greek people cheap. Okay you got us.
- Americans so fucking stupid. Hah wait. That’s it? That’s the joke?
This I don’t understand. Where is this coming from and who honestly would be okay with being called a big dumb dildo and laugh along like it’s such a well known fact about their country? We’re a lot of things, act like we own the world and everyone owes us money and gratitude, eat like shit while letting everyone know how to be healthy, use little creamer cups instead of cream. We’re not idiots.
Kinda like how the entirety of France isn’t rude and not all Greek people are cheap
We are pretty dumb though. On the whole. We’ve had a lot of our higher education people emigrate.
This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.
Not even close. Also doesn’t help that 'muricans have a very distorted view on how their country is perceived
I think most of us on the internet hear about it constantly and it’s pretty hard not to understand how we are perceived.
Ok, can you tell us then how the other countries in the world perceive the US?
Pushy, ignorant, reactionary, racist, isolationist, nationalist. Stick our noses into the matters of other countries where we don’t belong. Assume everything is centered around us. War/military happy. Arrogant. Loud.
Not sure if I’m missing any, but these are the prevailing things I see when people are talking about the US and the people who live here.
What is hard is that there are of course people (many people, even) that match one or multiple of those descriptions. But the same as it is silly to generalize all of Europe (or even any one European country), it is silly to generalize all Americans.
According to one source, the only media that for a long time made it into the states is media that the US government approves of. I could go into detail about it, but it shows up quite prominently in this video.
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I think other countries are a lot more open to self deprecation as part of their humour / culture. Not saying there aren’t some examples of this in America, it just doesn’t seem to be as prevalent as in British comedy for example.
National boundaries just divide workers to obscure the fact that they have more in common with each other than with the ruling classes.
No disagreement from me comrade.
The real struggle from the start
As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.
The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.
Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?
Hehehehehehe
There are only two types of people I hate. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.
Why not the french or the british?
This was a joke, we don’t actually hate the dutch
You might not, but I haven’t heard them apologize for the Congo.
I agree, but I don’t think in black and white. My Dutch friend is probably completely oblivious to any of that, and he is a good person. Most people are probably in that same situation.
Would it be good for the government (or any government) to come out and apologize for shitty things that happened in the past? If course. But that isn’t a reason to use blanket “we hate these types of people” statements seriously.
No, sorry, they have a blood debt, they must be purged.
First of all: How dare You!?
They have absolutely no sense of humor. Or was it the Swedes?
It’s definitely the Swedes.
Denmark is the one next to France right? I forget
No, we’re Germany’s hat. Tiny, tiny hat.
Oh so you’re basically just Germany. Got it
Eingebunden.
Rather that than Swedish!
As a european, this applies to both sides lol
as a southamerican I remind you that there are more than two sides.
Ah yeah of course
As a southafrican I remind you that reddit is bad and your pfp should not contain a reddit character
As others have said, we often make fun of ourselves. On these platforms, the liberal side of America is very vocal about the conservative side of America. Healthcare, guns, cost of living, etc. are something we’re constantly being made fun of (often from ourselves).
If you’ve experienced pushback, it’s likely because it gets stale as a subject. We know our country has problem; most of us feel powerless to change it.
Maybe that’s what happens when you have this much diversity in a country. We’re not like the French who can all unify and protest when needed.
edit: Rereading this, it makes it sound like I think diversity is a bad thing. Didn’t mean to imply that, its just that we’re so different its harder to unify.
