Yeah, both sides amiright?

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    Right, I don’t deny that Harris was less evil on other issues, but I do not subscribe to the ideology of lesser-evilism. Just because one side is more evil doesn’t mean that the other side is worth supporting when they’re both irredeemably evil genocidal psychopaths who deserve eternal torture in the deepest circle of hell. Lesser-evilism doesn’t make sense from either a moral or strategic standpoint.

    There’s a social experiment that’s been studied where the researchers give two people $100 to split, but the first person makes one offer on how to split it, and if the second person doesn’t agree, then neither of them get anything. If lesser-evilism was correct, then what would happen is that the first person would offer a $99-$1 split and the second person would accept, because $1 is a lesser evil than $0. But that’s not what actually happens. The reality is that most people have a certain minimum threshold, somewhere around $70-$30, and below that they’ll tell the other person to get fucked.

    This is not really an irrational behavior, though it may appear so in the context of the experiment. For example, if the experiment were repeated multiple times with the same participants, than accepting the $1 means that you will only ever be offered $1 in future negotiations because you’ve shown you’ll accept it.

    In reality, I’m pretty sure that lesser-evilists understand this concept on some level. It’s just that either their minimum threshold does not preclude the genocide of foreigners in far away countries, or they convince themselves that the democrats aren’t actually as bad about that as they are. But for me, I do recognize that Harris is a complete monster, and I also place value on Palestinian lives, so I said no to the $99-$1 offer and now I have $0 which I fully anticipated and have no regrets over. Maybe next time they’ll come back with a reasonable offer that doesn’t include genocide.

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      What pisses me off is you don’t even understand the place of privilege from which you speak. It’s such disgusting selfish egotistical mentality to think that if a candidate doesn’t represent your exact desires, that you think you can wash your hands of the whole thing and absolve yourself your part in the system.

      The world is not designed to cater to your personal sensibilities.

      Meanwhile, as you abstain and wait literally forever for a candidate that you don’t have to pinch your nose to vote for, you are proudly throwing away your ability to impact change for the better.

      Basically you’re saying if you can’t have ice cream for dinner then we should go ahead and burn down the grocery store.

      You’re a child.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      14 hours ago

      Right, I don’t deny that Harris was less evil on other issues, but I do not subscribe to the ideology of lesser-evilism.

      Yeah, fuck the lives of American minorities, you have to make yourself feel good when you’re in the voting booth! 😊