• Delta_V@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    This time? There was no real opportunity for meaningful change. The Democratic party is far right economically, and they depend on the donations of plutocrats and megacorps. Regardless of either Democrats or Republicans getting elected, the donor class wins and working Americans lose. Some will say Harris attempt to appeal to the right wing is what made her lose, and perhaps there is an element of truth to that. Its unlikely that the Republican base she attempted to woo would actually vote for a Black woman running as a Democrat over the old, rich White guy running as a Republican. However, the owners of the Democratic party - the ones who immediately had millions of dollars to donate the day Biden dropped out - they didn’t lose. The only way the owners could lose is by appealing to progressives and winning an election.

    The time to begin doing something differently was decades ago, building power and organizing from the bottom up. Socialists need to begin running in and winning local elections, and pushing hard against First Past The Post elections.

  • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
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    Not surprised at all. You guys need to tone down the insane hyperbole by a solid 90% and actually start trying to coexist with your fellow countrymen instead of inviting in any and every threat you can find because they’ll happily confirm your biases in public while fleecing the nation behind the curtains. You need to stop playing stupid word games to try and redefine reality, as though how you talk about things can change what they actually are. You need to actually put some real effort into learning and working towards change instead of just parroting everything you heard on social media today then pretending you’re so much smarter than everyone else.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      Ekſkyuz M f heziteıtıŋ ėbaut bııŋ frendlı ƿið pıpėl hu “diſėgrı” ðæt Uı hæv ineılıėbél hyumin ruıtſ.

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      Excuse me for hesitating about being friendly with people who "disagree* that I have inaliable human rights.

      İf ðiſ z’n dju̇ſt ė muıkrokȯzm v kėnſṙvėtiv pėtṙnėlizm. “Y did’n ækt greıtfᵫl inu̇f t M f letıŋ Y hæv livıŋ privlidjz, ſ nau Y kæn hæv ðem bæk ƿen Y lṙn t pleı nuıſ ƿið M æ a muı frendz hu aṙ teıkıŋ ðem frėm Y!.”

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      If this isn’t just a microcosm of conservative paternalism. "You didn’t act grateful enough to me for letting you have living privileges, so now you can have them back when you learn to play nice with me and my friends who are taking them from you.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          10 days ago

          Ðı’ṙ alredı ſelebreıtıŋ getıŋ t g mæſk ȯf ðæt Prȯdjekt 2025 z totėlı ð plæn, b cṙ budı, “egzædjṙeıcėn.”

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          They’re already celebrating getting to go mask off that Project 2025 is totally the plan, but sure budy, “exaggeration.”

  • Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Something I haven’t seen discussed is that Kamala is a woman. There are a lot of misogynistic voters who will refuse to vote for a woman.

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      That explanation drives you away from the problems Democratic Party has. If people want to cast their vote, they will, if they are sexists or racists they vote for the other party. In this election we saw that a lot of people from both sides that voted in the previous election who didn’t want to vote now. It was much more people for the Democrats likely because they voted last time and were disillusioned in the democratic process.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      Nobėdı ƿantſ t mentcėn ðiſ bikȯz it u̇ndṙku̇tſ ðeıṙ fæntėſı ðæt moſt ėmeırikėnz aṙ ſıkrit ſocėliſtſ weıtıŋ f æn ėmeırikėn Marx t ſpaṙk revėlucėn.

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      Nobody wants to mention this because it undercuts their fantasy that most americans are secret socialists waiting for an american Marx to spark revolution.

      İt’z dju̇ſt ð leftƿacd vṙjėn v “Ekėnȯmik Eıŋgzuyitı”

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      It’s just the leftwashed version of “Economic Anxiety”

  • Steve@communick.news
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    11 days ago

    The Democrats threw it away.
    For several races now they’ve been told by many actual progressives, they need to embrace economic-populism. They refused to. Instead embracing the Cheneys. They got out played by a convicted felon, who’s older than his IQ (thanks to another lemmon for that line. I love it).

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      Man… don’t take this language personally. It’s just the only way I know how to speak right now.

      In what fucking world do you think a more progressive candidate would’ve turned Michigan and Pennsylvania blue?

      Christ. I hope I’m fucking wrong. Because I do believe in a more progressive agenda. And I’m in Michigan. But this takeaway is absolutely fucking nuts to me.

      The last thing we need is for the hardcore blue states to be even bluer while the battleground states are all red.

      I don’t know, man. Explain your math to me. Because I can’t wrap my head around it. But I haven’t slept in like 36 hours, either, so maybe it’s just me.

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        11 days ago

        Harris lost Michigan by fewer votes than the number of people who voted “uncommitted” in the primary.

        I don’t think the lesson here is to be more moderate or more conservative.

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          You know, uncommitted doesn’t really bother me. Had I bothered voting in the primary, I’d probably have voted uncommitted, too. Because I’m not really happy about the administration’s handling of the Israel-Gaza situation.

          But I damn sure voted for Kamala yesterday. I hope the Jill Stein voters feel really fucking smug about teaching Democrats a lesson when Trump tells Netanyahu to just push all the Muslims into the fucking ocean, and sells them the bulldozers to do it. I hope they all fucking cheer when they watch it livestreamed, Xclusively on X.

          Because I assume that’s what they wanted out of this election, and by gum, they fucking got it.

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            11 days ago

            I wonder if democrats feel good about supporting (leadership) or excusing (voters) genocide because they thought they had to to win, but lost anyway.