• Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com
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    The Democrats abandoned their base today. Harris did not intend to turn out for the party at her own College. Key members began to leave before the final numbers were called. No speech. No words of comfort or support for the 50-ish percent of voters that tried to push back against fascism.

    It really feels like Harris was only speaking for the people as long as she was winning, and when the tide turned she fucked off. It supports the narrative of ‘vote for me or else’.

    This does not build trust in the party, and if the world ever sees another US presidential election, I hope people remember how they have been treated.

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      It really feels like Harris was only speaking for the people as long as she was winning

      This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Both parties are complete dogshit, but some of the democrats on this platform are too blinded by their hatred for Trump to see it. Harris was just the lesser evil, but under no circumstances was America ever going to push past its problems

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      Wtf

      No she wasn’t

      If you ask anyone internationally, she was an absolutely awesome choice

      She’s actually really clever. She’s a good choice for the role.

      Trump won by lying constantly. America is fucked because the only thing he’ll deliver on is being a dictator day 1

      Trump literally won because of shitty social media networks and Murdoch media

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        I guess people who live internationally are unaware but, there’s a lot of racism and misogyny in the U.S. The democrats should have run a primary and Biden should never have been in the race.

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        I think there is a disturbing charm that trump brings to some Americans. Almost like a “hes a no nonsense” or a “common sense” kind of guy but i think thats mostly because he can blow out tons of lies and misinformation with lots of confidence and some old fashioned American charisma. Hes happy to let people’s hate fuel their emotions.

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        If you ask anyone internationally, she was an absolutely awesome choice

        Foreigners don’t understand American politics. Besides who cares what foreigners think when you are voting for a President? They just want someone that’s going to be easy for them to work with they aren’t thinking about what’s best for America.

        She’s actually really clever. She’s a good choice for the role.

        She wasn’t democratically selected, she was appointed so any talk about Trump being a “threat” to democracy is pretty funny. Also she lost.

        Trump won by lying constantly and Murdoch Media blah blah blah

        Trump won because the majority of the country is pissed off about expensive groceries and an open border.

        America is fucked because the only thing he’ll deliver on is being a dictator day 1

        Exactly what is he going to do that will make him a dictator day 1?

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          It took me 10mins of Sky news here in Australia, months before Bidens win and knew there would be an insurrection.

          I’m now watching in realtime, as he’s following the nazi playbook. He’s dehumanising foreigners (“they’re eating cats and dogs”), he’s targeting the LGBTI, he’s targeting journalists (fake news) so people only follow his “state sponsored” news, and he’s attacking the justice department already, and replacing them with corrupt judges.

          Meanwhile, Sky news, Twitter and his news networks are providing biased journalism

          His own people have warned against him. Meanwhile, you’re asking a dumb question like “what will make him dictator day 1”…

          He already promised it. Here’s a list: https://theconversation.com/trump-has-vowed-to-be-a-dictator-on-day-one-with-this-day-now-coming-what-exactly-will-he-do-243049

          Why do you think people think Trump will fix pricing? It’s because of murdoch news networks. You’ll notice the same information parroted by a lot of Right wingers after Sky news mentions it.

          If sky news didn’t exist or were more neutral, Trump would have been royally F**ked

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            More hysteria. The reality is you are the one guilty of the brainwashing you accuse other people of. You’re watching boomer television and thinking that’s what Trump voters are watching when in reality it’s only 60+ year olds. Most voters have abandoned legacy media platforms because they are garbage.

            Dehumanizing foreigners

            We have an open border in the United States with near zero enforcement. If somebody crosses the border and is caught they are processed, given a court date and sent on their way. I’ve heard estimates as high as 25 million for illegal immigrants. That’s a high enough number where these people are visible in our society. Many of them are good people but even well meaning immigrants are a massive drain. Ironically leftists say they will do jobs Americans won’t do which is essentially admitting they are slave labor. Additionally they do create crime, heavily modify demographics, drive up home prices and cause issues by driving without insurance etc etc.

            Trump didn’t make up a fairytale that doesn’t exist. He’s tapping into a very real frustration people have that Biden/Harris have completely ignored for the last four years. Is the cats and dogs thing hyperbolic? Sure but that’s Trump and I’m not here to defend the stupid stuff he says.

            He’s targeting the LGBTI

            How?

            He’s targeting journalists

            Journalists are scum bags and have been for a long time. They used to be working class people that reported the news. Now they are elitist nepo-babies that pedal narratives to manufacture consent. They’ve been gaslighting America ever since Trump came into the picture by telling people that what they are seeing with their own eyes isn’t real. (e.g. inflation is down even though it’s it’s not, the country isn’t demographically shifting because of massive immigration)

            Regardless his “targeting journalists” is literally just insulting them by telling them they are bad at their job which they are. He also refuses to give press conferences which I think is hilarious.

            replacing them with corrupt judges

            Who are they and what makes them corrupt? The fact that they disagree with you on certain issues is insufficient.

            He already promised it. Here’s a list: https://theconversation.com/trump-has-vowed-to-be-a-dictator-on-day-one-with-this-day-now-coming-what-exactly-will-he-do-243049

            None of the executive orders in that article are illegal or unwelcome to his voters. (e.g. firing special counsel, mass deportation and eliminating Green New Deal BS) Regarding the most “egregious” EO around special counsel – Trump would have never faced the lawfare he is in the midst of if he wasn’t running for President so only his detractors see removing special counsel as something scary. Everyone else is happy to see it because the investigations (much like Mueller) were a failed attempt to dissuade voters from electing him.

            Executive orders are used heavily by every president particularly in the last 25 years. You can go look up the number of executive orders Obama issued to inform yourself on that. “I’ll be a dictator on day one” was a joke and you are taking the brainwashed takes of hysterical left wing news to think he’s literally Hitler when he’s literally been President before and pre-covid life was uneventful during his term.

            Why do you think people think Trump will fix pricing? It’s because of murdoch news networks. You’ll notice the same information parroted by a lot of Right wingers after Sky news mentions it.

            He’s going with a tariff strategy which I honestly have reservations about. It goes against most economic strategies because it’s protectionist but he is correct in that that we are being taken advantage of by competitors like China and our trade deficits are materially impacting us. Kamala Harris wanted price controls which is an even more stupid idea.

            If sky news didn’t exist or were more neutral, Trump would have been royally F**ked

            Twitter won this election. SkyNews like CNN, MSNBC etc etc is obsolete. Everyone laughed at Eon when he bought Twitter because “he’ll never make money with it”. Twitter was heavily censored along with every other major website in 2020 which stymied discussions about COVID etc. Collaboration with the US government was clear in the documents that Musk released. Twitter is now the only major place on the internet where people can say literally anything they want and have a low chance of being censored. It’s more free than Lemmy. This makes leftists seethe because they want to control the narrative and don’t want people talking about things freely. ‘Racist’, ‘fascist’, ‘hitler’ blah blah blah. The left has been hyperbolically saying the sky is falling for too long and furthermore insulting normal people for taking issue with America transforming into an unaffordable, third world shithole. People have had enough and voted accordingly. You’re going to need to calm down and stop insulting normal people if you want to be taken you seriously. “Everyone who voted Trump is deranged and brainwashed” is a laughably low-tier emotional argument that doesn’t acknowledge all the ways the left has failed and found itself at this point.

            1000005444

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              Jeesus mate

              It’s almost like you’re in denial that the insurrection never happened. Everyone knew months before he was planning a civil war. Except you

              There is one man who is surprised he was found guilty of rape. That’s you

              The guy lied at least 30000 times over 4 years,

              Bookmark my comment. Read about the Nazis

              Learn about the mafia and how they operate

              What we’re watching isn’t hysteria. It’s so obvious to anyone paying attention.

              That’s why everything is concepts of a plan, except the things that dictators generally do.

              It might shock you, but dictators and Nazis built up their power over years. They do things like encourage violence against their opponents and make jokes when they get attacked

              But hey bud… Sit there thinking it’s all good. I’m sure in 4 years when his time is running out (if he lives that long), he’s definitely going to be happy to transfer power

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                the insurrection never happened

                You mean a poorly managed protest turned riot? This is a prime example of why people hate the news. Cities across the US were vandalized by “fiery but peaceful” Black Lives Matter protests but when a bunch of loons show up at the capital with flags and digital cameras for an afternoon it’s somehow a legitimate attempt to overthrow the most powerful government in the world. There were no fire fights there was no violence en masse. It was a bunch of useful idiots being useful idiots. All that being said he should have managed it better. HOWEVER there was never any shadow of a doubt that power would transition to the next President at any point. Anyone thinking a dude in a viking helmet was going to prevent Joe Biden from becoming President is an idiot.

                Read about the Nazis. Learn about the mafia and how they operate.

                Lmao. You are off your rocker. Why don’t you turn off your computer and touch grass instead of being a terminally online pearl clutcher? I know politics is corrupt. It’s been corrupt since it’s inception. Surprise the democrats are corrupt too. Look at everyone’s stock portfolios and the fact that they stay in government forever despite never having a real job.

                While there are always dirty tricksters, what’s happening now is generational shift of power. Trump is a boomer but most of his backers are Silicon Valley Gen Xers and they want to change the political landscape. That means geriatric boomer policies and government bloat are going out the door in favor of more libertarian leaning policies. I’m not totally onboard with that approach but at least someone has an idea and they want to try it.

                What we’re watching isn’t hysteria. It’s so obvious to anyone paying attention.

                I’m paying attention, actually live in the United States, I disagree and so does the majority of America. Continue with your “sky is falling narrative” no one is listening to you anymore. It’s tiresome and you’re wrong.

                Bookmark my comment.

                Okay

                That’s why everything is concepts of a plan, except the things that dictators generally do.

                What does this even mean? Catch your breath man you sound like you’re hyperventilating.

                It might shock you, but dictators and Nazis built up their power over years.

                No way. You mean they didn’t just press the Nazi button?! Yeah investment over time is a prerequisite for ANY POLITICAL MOVEMENT. Trump was a joke in 2015 and now he has changed the political landscape by discrediting the establishment and bringing in outsiders. You may not like that. You may disagree with them but none of that is consequential. There is definitely a cult of personality but this go round it seems he actually has an administration that represents continuity beyond his next term.

                They do things like encourage violence against their opponents and make jokes when they get attacked

                The left does this all the time. Antifa, BLM, COVID gestapo etc etc. The left calls people they disagree with racists, fascists, nazis and thugs precisely so they can dehumanize them and justify writing them off completely. Guess what? Not only is that hypocritical it’s a failing strategy.

                he’s definitely going to be happy to transfer power

                Bookmarking so I can laugh at you when he does.

                You also failed to tell me how he’s targeting gay people or who the corrupt judges are. Presumably because there’s no there there.

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                  Dude

                  That is literally the most clueless reply ever. I’m laughing here

                  The don is literally sitting there with boxes of classified documents whilst Eileen cannon is dismissing the case. The whole thing mainly came to light because an Aussie billionaire warned the government that he was disclosing top secret info for his own benefit

                  Even more the fact you told me to touch grass. I operate a hiking group dumbass.

                  Murdoch media loves idiots. And it’s clear they found one. Sounds like Trump could literally threaten your family and you’d pretend like he was just joking

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        Or they recognize that a lot of their neighbors are both misogynist and racist. Democrats should have run a primary.