Trump insists it’s not Putin’s fault he invaded Ukraine
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Donald Trump blamed Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for the war between his country and Russia, even though it was Russia that invaded Ukraine and seeks to occupy its territory. Trump made ...
  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    95·
    17 天前

    In exactly the same way it’s not Trump’s fault when he sexually assault women. And grab them by the pussy because he thinks he’s allowed to do that because he is famous.

    Not only is it absolutely Putin’s fault, it’s also Putin’s fault all alone. Nobody pressured him into it, on the contrary everybody tried to work with Putin to find a solution. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked and illegal, and he and Russia are committing war crimes routinely, and Putin is an internationally wanted man because of it.

    Americans that vote Republican make me sick.

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      18·
      17 天前

      No, I’m pretty sure he thinks it’s their fault for being beautiful. And there. And what was she wearing?

      I mean Miss Teen USA are there to be looked at, so how is it my fault for looking at them?

      The game with Cluster B is that nothing is ever their fault. Nothing. Reality will almost always be twisted back on the recipient such that they made him do the thing, not that he’s guilty of the thing.

      • kamenLady.@lemmy.world
        10·
        17 天前

        And what was she wearing?

        That’s the main trigger

        Some get so triggered, that they force women to cover their complete body in public.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          5·
          16 天前

          And once you’ve managed to get through rules like that, rape becomes even easier to rationalise.

          “Oh I saw an ankle, so you know, I couldn’t control myself and had to rape that woman to death, and it’s all her fault.”

          Disgusting, truly.

    • collapse_already@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9·
      17 天前

      The sad thing is the average Russian probably doesn’t care if Russia has a warm water port and almost certainly doesn’t want to get conscripted to go star in a Ukranian drone snuff film. Nevertheless, that’s where they are, and I don’t foresee anything changing meaningfully.

  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
    34·
    17 天前

    Trump along with countless politicians, rich people, and influential people COMPLETELY DRANK THE KOOL-AID and Americans are out there swaying to November Rain.

    It’s fucking embarrassing but that doesn’t really express the fear that y’all are going to throw it all away because other countries are using your stupidity against you.

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
    21·
    17 天前

    This is so frustrating. This is “normal” logic for a Cluster B personality disorder. He’s being exactly what he is, Cluster B personality disorder, of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder variety.

    Cluster B are deeply, and I mean deeply, sick individuals. It’s not uncommon to engage teen Borderlines in a residency program (where you essentially live in a place to receive daily therapy to help quell the dives into alternative realities, and, in their case, the self harm that often results from it), as one example. Intense therapy, which can really help, but you have to get the help.

    Cluster B takes years of therapeutic work, as well as decades of therapeutic maintenance.

    Trump? I don’t think he’s ever gotten help. Cluster B is the guy who says things like this. I don’t want to hurt you, but you’re making me hurt you, this is you, it’s all you, not me, you, you’re very sick. It’s not unusual, it’s expected. Expected. And yet he has a following instead of being ghosted when I’m pretty sure ghosting was originally invented, well before the inception of social media, in response to Cluster B.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      3·
      16 天前

      Is it possible to cure cluster B? I don’t think narcissistic p disorder is?

      I mean one of the base lines is a lack of empathy, and for what I know, that cannot be “cured”.

      People like this should get help, but first and foremost they should never, ever, ever have the possibility to handle other people. In any way, even (or maybe especially) as parents. IMO.

      • zephorah@lemm.ee
        4·
        16 天前

        This idea of treatable vs not treatable was and is controversial. People used to say personality disorders were incurable, but that’s crappy because they are treatable, if they’re willing to work on it. There are some poor souls that end up institutionalized, even with effort, there are no 100%s here.

        A good way to think on it is like recovered alcoholics. The internal wiring for an alcoholic is forever changed such that if they engage in certain behaviors they’re going to fall down a really bad hole. And how easy it is to crawl back out again is highly individual but again, not necessarily a lost cause. Recovery and therapy is an ongoing process, per the individual, based on what is needed for the duration of their lives. Same deal with Cluster B personality disorders.

        Trump is 80 years old. I don’t think it’s going to happen for him. It’s just an ongoing frustration to watch a Cluster B do his Cluster B thing and for anyone to then be shocked at more Cluster B behavior. It’s like a headline reading: Woah! This orange cat just meowed. What IS strange is that anyone walked into a Cluster B’s alternative reality of mental illness and ran with it for 8 yrs and hasn’t woken up from it yet.

        We absolutely are dealing with mental illness here. Always have been. Hence the crushing exhaustion and head spinning of the last 8 years.

        He’s looking disheveled. Even his makeup is raggedy lately. Generally not a good sign.

        (Not all of cluster B lacks empathy, but it is a hallmark of NPD.)

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
          1·
          16 天前

          Very good points, and thanks for the info!

          Edit: yes, it’s most curious, and interesting (and horrible ofc) how so many people being confused so much and for so long. I wonder wath the aftermath will look like.

  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
    13·
    17 天前

    No, of course. Ukraine just invaded itself. And Russia just happens to defend themselves on Ukrainian territory.

  • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    7·
    17 天前

    Remember though folks. There are folks here that will have you believe there’s only one genocide happening right now- and the only reason they take issue with that one is because it can be used to influence an election.

    If America were supplying arms per an agreement to Palestine, they wouldn’t care- by the example of Ukraine , and they’d have created some other reason to vote third party. (See 2016 and 2020)

    Make no mistake.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
      3·
      17 天前

      Two, two genocide. They will tell you one is perpetrated by Israel, and another one is perpetrated by Ukraine

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        7·
        16 天前

        They will tell you one is perpetrated by Israel, and another one is perpetrated by Ukraine

        Are you on crack, or just Russian propaganda?

          • Dasus@lemmy.world
            1·
            16 天前

            So, “Russians will claim Ukraine is commuting a genocide”, which obviously isn’t true?

            That I’d agree with, yeah.

            • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
              2·
              16 天前

              Yep. I said that because i heard from them. Take note of them using nazi as a justification for the invasion, then they will spin it with genocide.

              • Dasus@lemmy.world
                1·
                16 天前

                See your earlier comment is getting downvoted because you didn’t make it clear enough that’s Russian lies, so you basically perpetuated their lie instead of talking against it.

                Or so it seemed. So…

                Sorry for that. One needs to be careful in ones implications when so much disinfo going on

                • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  16 天前

                  No, it’s pretty clear they were talking hypothetically about a common reasoning, and not stating it themselves if you understand english.

  • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.usEnglish
    1·
    13 天前

    What the heck. This is just…

    Now I see why Zelenskyy wants to join NATO instead of directly getting under the nuclear umbrella of the US. If the US chokes - if this idiot wins, the former can still supply nukes from the UK and France.