Democrats could pass major parts of her agenda with narrow majorities. But Republicans are telegraphing that her plans would be dead on arrival if they're in charge.
    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      44·
      3 个月前

      We had a majority of exactly 1 vote in the Senate and it was Joe fucking Manchin.

      People: Why didn’t Democrats accomplish more progressive things?

      Like, you’ve seen what Republicans want to pass, right??

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            3 个月前

            That percentage is meaningless when things that Lord Manchington doesn’t like don’t even come up for a vote.

            • spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              2 个月前

              He’s not the Senate Majority Leader and doesn’t control what comes to a vote. I just don’t see the point of vilifying a centrist when there are 50 other lunatics that vote against progress 100% of the time. Manchin voted for all the judges, infra, chips, IRA, all the budget stuff, etc. Lets focus on the real problem - way too many GOP senators.

              • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                2 个月前

                He’s not the Senate Majority Leader and doesn’t control what comes to a vote.

                The Senate Majority Leader doesn’t usually waste time on things he knows can’t pass because one centrists is willing to stick his neck out and do what all centrists want.

                As far as judges, he voted to confirm Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

                • spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  2 个月前

                  My point isn’t to defend the guy, it’s to put some context around the fact that half the Senate is even worse, so this is a disproportionate amount of villification. Let’s say he had an R next to his name, we then have a R majority leader and the whole Senate grinds to a halt. Then will you magically give him a pass because now being an asswipe is fully expected of him? That’s the kid gloves treatment you’re giving to the other 50 GOP senators that are the actual problem.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 个月前

        We had a majority of exactly 1 vote in the Senate and it was Joe fucking Manchin.

        There are always enough Manchins.

        • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
          25·
          3 个月前

          Gotta shift that Overton window first. Votes can do that slowly, if we can do it consistently enough (local elections too, not just the presidential one.)

          That probably won’t be enough on its own, of course, but it’s certainly not nothing.

          • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
            27·
            3 个月前

            That one might actually happen because of how fucking pissed everyone is and because minimum wage employers don’t lobby as much as health insurers, drug manufacturers, and PBMs.

      • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
        19·
        3 个月前

        If I remember right, the Affordable Care Act passed the Senate 60-39 along party lines on December 24, 2009, and passed the House 219-212. That’s really ragged edge stuff. Universal healthcre was considered, but too many votes would have been lost to pass a resolution which incorporated it. They did what they could.

      • Serinus@lemmy.world
        8·
        3 个月前

        I mean, maybe. Exactly how Dem is this Congress? Because we’re gonna have to have enough Dems that we can lose a few and still win the vote.

        Unless, of course, you think we can get some Republicans on board. It’s almost like the main problem isn’t the few Dems that won’t play along, like Manchin and Lieberman. Maybe the main issue is Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), JD Vance (R-OH), and Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), and the fact that I could have listed 47 other Republicans here, and that’s just if I stick to the Senate.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    49·
    3 个月前

    Talk about a tautological statement. Dems need Dems to get anything done because of the shitbag obstructionist repubs who want to hinder all progress. It’s like saying people need air to breathe.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    3 个月前

    Democratic majorities don’t pass agendas. If we get a majority in both chambers, we’ll get to see who the new Manchin is. My money is on one of the candidates that the foreign genocidal apartheid regime bought.