Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris stopped her fans from getting too wild with their Trump bashing at a campaign rally in Wisconsin on Wednesday.

On the second day of her battleground blitz with running mate Tim Walz, when she got to the point in her now-familiar stump speech about her days prosecuting predators, fraudsters and scammers, supporters, like those in Philadelphia on Tuesday, were just starting to chant “lock him up” when Harris deviated from the script.

“Well, hold on,” she said, holding out her hand as if to placate the crowd in Eau Claire, Wisc. “You know what, the courts are going to handle that part of it. What we’re gonna do is beat him in November.”

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    I’ll respectfully disagree and agree at the same time.

    2008 Obama? Hell yeah. But 2012 Obama was kind of a slow speaker. His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins. He wasn’t as top tier amin his second term as he was in his first.

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      I uhhhhhhh… never really understood uhhhhhhhh… why Obama uhhhhhhhh… was uhhhhhhh… considered such a great orator. Sure he uhhhhhhh… could uhhhhhhh… clearly communicate a thought, but uhhhhhhh… it fucking took a while to uhhhhhhhh… get it out of his mouth.

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        This part is true. I think he just had a lot of charisma with it overall. Also, we had Bush Jr to compare him to, which makes anyone competent sound like a genius.

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          Hey dont insult me like that, I could make Bush look good on one of my bad days. I accidently started a fight in ny friend group yesterday cause I was playing CK2 and said the word gypsy.

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        Thank you, dude was the William Shatner of Uh. Now go watch Robert Kennedy announce the death of MLK. Or read one of Lincoln’s speeches, or Cesar’s. There were a lot of great speakers out their of varying ideologies. Its definitely a talent that is sorely needed in a lot of politics today.

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          I thought that “apes together strong” was powerful, but I’m not sure if I’d put him up there with Lincoln

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          Speeches don’t include unintentional parts like “uh”. And there was no recording of Caesar speaking.

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            Caesar also would shout one line at a time and wait for people to repeat it for the people father away. I’m sure it was awesome live, but an audio recording would sound very strange to a modern listener.

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              That’s pretty cool, and it makes sense. I always wondered how people heard speakers back in the day. Thank you

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                A classical grammatical rule says: “A sentence must express a complete thought, be able to be written down, and speakable in one breath,” which makes a hell of a lot more sense once you get the context of oration.

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                  Interesting, because a lot of literature from 150 years ago breaks the hell out of that rule. Like authors were one upping each other to see how long they can get away with not using a period.

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              I went to a Bernie rally once and it was somewhat like that. Not with people repeating lines for the whole auditorium, of course, but lots of saying one line and then pause for applause.

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        I always have to laugh at people who think him going over what he’s going to say before it comes out of his lips as he’s not good at speech.

        Homie, he’s actually THINKING before he speaks. I know that might sound weird, but I for one think MORE people need to follow that way of talking.

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      His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins.

      I remember very few quotes from Presidential or Vice Presidential debates. However Obama vs Romney had one of the most memorable ones:

      “Please proceed, Governor.”