Joe Biden will not be the Democratic nominee in November’s presidential election, thankfully. He is not withdrawing because he’s being held responsible for enabling war crimes against the Palestinian people (though a recent poll does have nearly 40 percent of Americans saying they’re less likely to vote for him thanks to his handling of the war). Yet it’s impossible to extricate the collapse in public faith in the Biden campaign from the “uncommitted” movement for Gaza. They were the first people to refuse him their votes, and defections from within the president’s base hollowed out his support well in advance of the debate.

The Democrats and their presumptive nominee Kamala Harris are faced with a choice: On the one hand, they can continue Biden’s monstrous support for Netanyahu, the brutal IDF, and Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. That would help allow the party to cover for Biden and put a positive spin on a smooth handoff, even though we all know this would mainly benefit the embittered president himself and his small coterie of loyalists. Such a choice would confirm that the institutional rot that allowed the current situation to develop still characterizes the party.

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    And do you know how many American lives are being saved by letting Israel fight Iran as a proxy rather than letting it fall and having to deal with the headache afterwards?

    Israel is a strategic asset in a larger war, and a lot of people are clearly missing that concept because they don’t think the US and Iran are actually at war with each other. It’s the same reason why the embargo of Cuba still exists.

    Geopolitics is complicated, and most of it is not out in the open for the public to see.

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      And do you know how many American lives are being saved by letting Israel fight Iran as a proxy rather than letting it fall and having to deal with the headache afterwards?

      Wow, what an argument. Look the other way and prop up the genocidal apartheid state because otherwise we might have to use blood in addition to treasure to defend imperial interests in the Middle East. Just…wow.

      It’s the same reason why the embargo of Cuba still exists.

      What reason is that exactly?

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        I mean, yea. You think the world is some happy go lucky place where people don’t fight each other?

        The US dropped two nuclear bombs on civilians in Japan to end a war quickly, and despite the backlash they’d kill civilians again in a heartbeat if it was beneficial to America. The number of civilians that died from the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11 shows that very clearly. The current Palestinian death toll is less than 10% of that 20 year conflict, and it was done by Americans directly.

        Cuba is being used as a pawn by other countries to threaten the US, the same as it was during the cold war. Russia and China didn’t write off $40 billion dollars for free over the last decade.

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          I mean, yea. You think the world is some happy go lucky place where people don’t fight each other?

          Umm…lol no. I think the world is run by military forces and their obedient governments.

          The US dropped two nuclear bombs on civilians in Japan to end a war quickly

          Vaporize civilians for peace!

          they’d kill civilians again in a heartbeat if it was beneficial to America

          If by America you mean imperial warmaking and profits then yes, “they” have, would, and will continue.

          The number of civilians that died from the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11 shows that very clearly. The current Palestinian death toll is less than 10% of that 20 year conflict, and it was done by Americans directly

          This point is really confusing but…yay America?

          Cuba is being used as a pawn by other countries to threaten the US

          Wow what a take. Other countries support Cuba, so the USA gets to perpetuate invasions, assassination attempts, terrorism and eternal economic warfare. The Cubans have no autonomy but also they brought this on themselves.

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                Oddly enough, there wasn’t after the bombing of Pearl harbor.

                Tit for tat. Sorry our tat was bigger.

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                    I don’t recall ever saying that.

                    I apologized our boom was bigger. It was genuine. Should never have happened.

                    I would, however, argue that a blow designed to end combat is more ethical than one intended to wound and mame.