• Superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

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      2 months ago

      I think most people had no idea he was significantly declining, hence the astonishment at the debate. And some people around him seem to have been encouraging the denial (or worse). I’m unclear if he was doing better many months ago before primaries.

      I can’t imagine how insulated and reliant on advisors and other employees the president becomes. Quickly surrounded by people who have no interest in being the bearer of bad news. Probably akin to billionaires, and we see what they mutate into (some kind of Musk-like creature).

      I’m so relieved that Biden was able to come to this painful decision, even if it was late. On the bright side, at least there’s less time for the GOP to smear the new nominee. And no more televised convention for them to host the lies for free.

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        There was a significant effort to hide Biden’s disability. The upper echelons in the Dem party have a lot to answer for.

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          2 months ago

          You think the Repubs are ever gonna even put in any effort to hide Trumps disability?

          Cos frankly, it’s starting to feel like it doesn’t matter when it’s their king. what are your thoughts? Does trump suffer from entropy like the rest of us?

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            It’s one of those things, strategy. If I point out an obvious flaw in the Dem’s candidate, it doesn’t follow that the opposition is superior. Trump can rot in hell for all I care. I don’t give a tin shit about his plan or strategy. I just want the best person the Dems can find to take him down. Pretty simple really.

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              But you realise that having discussions like that on open public forums just legitimises the particularly twisted viewpoints of maga people then… Surely.

              There are only gonna be 2 people (realistically) in the race if you truly care about what you claim… Then fuck no do the dem party not have shit all to answer for… not when you compare them to maga.

              And like you said. Strategy. That’s all thats important for Americans right now.

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                Don’t know what you are talking about. I think that the issue is now resolved. They just left things on hold for too long.

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                  I’m talking about the race for the presidency and public discourse around it, with special consideration for the amount of Americans that are maga people despite trumps behaviour.

                  An inordinate amount of Americans are now pushing for a king. I think the nuances of the democratic party is so low on the discussion totem pole of shit that needs to be discussed more.

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                For goodness sake. It’s not just the MAGA lunatics. The whole world saw the debate. People like you are asking us to disbelieve our own eyes. Being a realist doesn’t make you an enemy.

                Anyway, chill, the problem has been resolved and the orange ape is going down. Unity is the watchword. The only old fluck in the race in Trump.

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                  The whole world has been watching trump for the last 8 years… If you think that isn’t worlds more embarrassing for USA… you have no idea.

                  Biden messing up a word here and there in that debate was NOTHING compared to the recorder behaviours of Trump while in office.

                  Yet dumb Americans thought that is what should be discussed. It’s literally insane, watching from the outside.

                  It’s literally not worth even discussing, when the opponent is trump. The laundry list of reasons is so much longer and more important…

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                    Yeah right. Biden looked lost and uncomprehending. But sure, nobody saw a damn thing. Our eyes were lying to us. Fasenating.

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        agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

        however… dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from “narrow loss” -> “political landslide”.

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          I don’t think all the messaging in the world can fix the reality that Biden hasn’t improved material conditions of the people who voted for him in 2020, or even gone to the mat fighting for them.

          The only things he’s really gone around congress or the SCOTUS for is to deny more asylum seekers and give more weapons to Israel and Ukraine.

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            He absolutely has. We’re getting public transit built out. Caps on overdraft fees. Capped the price of insulin. Invalidated most non-compete clauses. Oh, and he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

            Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

            I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

            That’s just what I can name of the top of my head. He was a better president than Obama.

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              We’re getting public transit built out

              Nothing around me except wider highways, nor anyone I know. Unless the brightline is part of that, which is nice, but doesn’t compete with airfare and driving.

              Caps on overdraft fees

              lmao just get rid of them, people who have no money don’t need less penalties, they need no penalties. There is not a “medium overdraft fees” constituency who will vote against the dems if they get rid of overdraft fees.

              Capped the price of insulin

              See previous response. If you have the power to cap it, you have the power to make it free.

              he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

              Stop trying to make trump’s army of divorced Jet Ski dealers sound cool. Most Americans hate congress and Mike Pence.

              Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

              He literally ended the covid protections, told people not to wear masks, and a bunch of Americans did receive long-term injury or death from covid before they stopped counting.

              I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

              Because of our actions, Ukraine will never be safe within our lifetimes. Every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. Any stance except peace as soon as possible demonstrates that you care less about the lives of the actual people living in Ukraine than you do supporting imperialism.

              We could have had peace with similar terms to what we can get now two years ago, and millions would be alive and in their homes right now. But instead we decided to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

              He was a better president than Obama.

              The patron saint of drones, who halved black wealth to bail out the banks? The deporter-in-chief who paved the way for Trump? That’s not the flex you think it is.