While true. It’s because a lot of homeless are really unpredictable for various reasons.
The “down on their luck” homeless you see panhandling etc are generally the exception. Most have legitimate mental illness or drug problems. At least in my neck of America.
I’m well aware of the issues faced by homeless people, and none of that negates anything I’ve said, if anything, it actually strengthens my point - highlighting just how much more vulnerable and more at risk of being victimised they are. Mentally ill people are at a much higher risk of being the victims of violence than the perpetrators of it.
We’re also not talking about ideals here because in an ideal world people wouldn’t be homeless, but they are, and they deserve to be able to defend themselves with a weapon of their choice.
Maybe instead of worrying about the “unstable” homeless people, worry about the circumstances that put them there and the people who actively act to harm them (the government, the police, NIMBY’s, and so on)? I guarantee that’s a much better track to change.
A lot of people who live in unsafe situations/locations buy a gun to try to protect themselves. It’s not that buying a gun makes you more likely to be shot, but rather that people who are already likely to be shot buy guns.
In particular, the researchers found, people who lived with handgun owners had a much higher rate of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner. The vast majority of such victims, 84%, were women, they said.
Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found.
People who lived with handgun owners “did not experience such fatal [stranger] attacks at lower rates than their neighbors in gun-free homes”, the researchers wrote, noting that stranger homicides at home were “a small minority” of the homicides observed in the study.
Lmfao, brings up DV stats about housed men shooting the women they live with after years of ongoing violence and abuse all directed towards the one person they end up shooting, to prove, what point exactly, about homeless people???
Maybe get your head out of your ass and admit you might not know what you’re talking about?
No?
I didn’t think so, but it was worth a try…
Either way, you’re full of shit, and at the very least are a wilfully ignorant classist who thinks they know better than those with the actual lived experience.
You don’t.
Well being homeless isn’t safe either, and while it’d be much nicer if no one was homeless, they are, and they deserve the same level not only of safety, but also autonomy.
I bet you’ve never bothered piping up about guns not being safe when housed people are being discussed, that’s what you should be focused on, not your paternalistic urge to control what others you feel superior to, do.
I think that if I were homeless, the first thing I’d do with a gun is sell it.
Sure, if that worked for you, fine, but that doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t want to keep it. Being homeless is really fucking dangerous.
While true. It’s because a lot of homeless are really unpredictable for various reasons.
The “down on their luck” homeless you see panhandling etc are generally the exception. Most have legitimate mental illness or drug problems. At least in my neck of America.
I’m well aware of the issues faced by homeless people, and none of that negates anything I’ve said, if anything, it actually strengthens my point - highlighting just how much more vulnerable and more at risk of being victimised they are. Mentally ill people are at a much higher risk of being the victims of violence than the perpetrators of it.
We’re also not talking about ideals here because in an ideal world people wouldn’t be homeless, but they are, and they deserve to be able to defend themselves with a weapon of their choice.
Maybe instead of worrying about the “unstable” homeless people, worry about the circumstances that put them there and the people who actively act to harm them (the government, the police, NIMBY’s, and so on)? I guarantee that’s a much better track to change.
Owning a gun doesn’t make you safer. The odds of getting shot increase if you own a gun.
You’re approaching this from the wrong direction.
A lot of people who live in unsafe situations/locations buy a gun to try to protect themselves. It’s not that buying a gun makes you more likely to be shot, but rather that people who are already likely to be shot buy guns.
That’s accounted for. There’ve been lots of studies; here’s a story about one.
Lmfao, brings up DV stats about housed men shooting the women they live with after years of ongoing violence and abuse all directed towards the one person they end up shooting, to prove, what point exactly, about homeless people???
Maybe get your head out of your ass and admit you might not know what you’re talking about?
No?
I didn’t think so, but it was worth a try…
Either way, you’re full of shit, and at the very least are a wilfully ignorant classist who thinks they know better than those with the actual lived experience.
You don’t.
I’m not pro gun but I don’t understand this research.
I mean, people with bathtubs has a significantly higher risk of falling in the bathtub…
Well being homeless isn’t safe either, and while it’d be much nicer if no one was homeless, they are, and they deserve the same level not only of safety, but also autonomy.
I bet you’ve never bothered piping up about guns not being safe when housed people are being discussed, that’s what you should be focused on, not your paternalistic urge to control what others you feel superior to, do.
You’d lose that bet.
Ya but eventually you’d have a flooded market and then you’d be better off just trying to eat the gun