• Stamets@lemmy.worldOP
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      Oh my god really? Oh thank you so much! I just had to start doing it! Holy shit! Incredible! Astounding! You will surely be rich and famous. Have you heard of Oprah? Talk to her! Maybe she can give you your own show with nonsensical useless opinions that demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge on the subject and a tacit hostility to anything you don’t understand!

      Pick a random direction to off and proceed to fuck in that direction, please.

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        I have clinical depression, so I’m essentially an amalgamation of 1st and 2nd pick. I know, it’s a mess, I’m not okay with it, but when I eventually clean, I still feel like shit because it doesn’t solve my problems. The devious thing is that I’m fully aware beforehand that tidying up and cleaning will not make a difference, but while doing it, I have that naive hope that it will.

        The amount of times I’ve heard “just go to therapy” or the even less helpful “just look at the bright side of life” is staggering. People really seem to think I enjoy hating myself and hoping that I don’t wake up tomorrow.

        Oh, another fun argument is “look at some horrible shit that happened to someone, you have it way better”. I’m sorry that seeing others’ misery does not make me feel better.

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          look at some horrible shit that happened to someone, you have it way better

          I hate this more than anything… Yes I get that people are literally dying. Now I hate myself on my normal level of hating myself and I hate myself for not being able to be happy when there are people literally dying right now. Thanks.

          My cousin was always the “there are children starving in Africa” types. It doesn’t ever help. Just don’t.

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          Actually their comment was removed and they were given a ban

          Basically they said “Just start somewhere, it’s not that hard.” And then proceeded to say ADHD is no excuse for laziness.

          So yeah, banned for rage baiting/trolling

        • Stamets@lemmy.worldOP
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          I’m sorry, but shouldn’t you have used your executive functions to do the task of fucking off?

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              Listen Mr. Big Brain, I have ADHD and I keep a messy home, don’t like it per say. But it’s certainly not a matter of laziness, I’m interested in what I desire the most. I follow that, this has led me to career in the military, through college (thanks hyper focus as a symptom), learning languages, learning to program, embedded IoT design, fitness, and so many other beautiful things.

              Yeah, I guess it sucks knowing you can fuck off at will, however I’d rather have my inconsistent adhd with unlimited energy than whatever you have going on that’s led to your shitty behavior.

              Sorry my floor is cluttered, it’s quite literally so low on my totem pole that it’s barely a concern, but sure keep deriving your vain superiority from that.

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          Wow, you are a complete tool. This isn’t even about adhd anymore. You have the self awareness of a stop sign.

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      While not exactly false, there’s astronomically better ways to put this. Plus the fact that momentum doesn’t always work reliably or consistently for people with ADHD.

      Don’t be a jerk.

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      As a fellow adhder yer right tho. I’m literally laying in the middle of my filth right now haha but since I’m going for coffee downstairs anyway, I’m going to take down four glasses as well! Because you’re right!

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      Do you have adhd? It seems like you don’t really understand what is going on here.

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          So you should understand that it’s entirely out of peoples hands without help and support/medication.

          It’s great you have that, do you think everyone else does? Or are you lying about being diagnosed or just don’t understand the disorder to begin with?

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      Just starting somewhere is the correct call (though I’d rephrase it as “Start anywhere”) but I wouldn’t call not doing it laziness

      There’s a decision paralysis that’s really hard to overcome on where to start

      I know it sounds silly, but it’s really a major hurdle

      The more times you make it past the initial hurdle by “starting anywhere” the easier it becomes to get past that initial hurdle

      I find breaking things into much smaller tasks helps a lot. I personally make actual physical lists so I can cross things out as I go because it’s more satisfying to cross things off and it’s easier to not get distracted.

      For example: Cleaning my room is the major task but it’s too big and full of choices; cleaning 3d prining corner, organize shelf, vacuum, clean my desk, etc. I’m going to grab 1 minor task from it, cleaning my desk.

      The minor task of “cleaning my desk” can be broken down further into so many sub-tasks; Put books back on shelf (this can be broken up as well due to how things are sorted and the variety on my desk), put dishes in sink (can lead to other minor tasks), sort mail into 2 piles, throw away junk mail, put important mail into filing cabinet, put tools back in toolbox, wipe down monitors, etc, etc.

      Breaking tasks into smaller pieces makes those initial hurdles easier to overcome and also makes “starting anywhere” easier. Not to mention there’s the dopamine spike of completing those little tasks.

      Also learning to accept that sometimes the major task you want to accomplish is too large for one day helps.

      It’s hard (trust me I know) but it’s worth it in the long run to get practice doing it.

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        It’s hard (trust me I know) but it’s worth it in the long run to get practice doing it.

        Yep. Getting motivated to do things is a skill like any other, it takes practice and effort.

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            I know man. I’m nearly 40. At 20 I would have never guessed I could be motivated to do things beyond my immediate needs and wants. I honestly thought it was a character flaw that I was stuck with. Not that I’m perfect now, but the progress I’ve made is eeally a testament to how much I’ve grown up.

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              All through my 20s I thought everyone struggled with motivation like I did but after working on it for awhile and being medicated it’s like going from life at legendary difficulty to hard mode.

              It’s so much easier, though I still wouldn’t call it easy.

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      While I personally do find a level of success starting something - after starting, continuing is much easier - that doesn’t mean that the difficulty I have with starting things is laziness.

      Also, fuck you.