Lol, if we start excluding tech based on the inventors mental illnesses we are gonna end up bashing rocks together to make fire.
Edit: To be clear, I am not saying that being trans is a mental illness, only refuting that mental illness is not a reason to discard ones contributions. Apologies for any offence.
let me tell you about the guy who invented bashing rocks together …
Pretty much lol. RMS went off the deep end so no GNU, Torvalds used to call people devil cunts so no Linux kernel. Theo probably did something to upset somebody lol. Maybe we can just use TempleOS and become computing hermits?
Goes back further than that, Turing was gay, so anything building off his works must also be transitively gay.
To add to the modern examples, Reiser murdered his wife, which really puts “devil cunts” into perspective :D
Goes back another 100 years before that. Lovelace was a woman, who in her time wasn’t supposed to be doing anything at all
Back then people still believed in the “woman hysteria” thing, right? Ngl sounds very “mental illness” to me.
Well, using the same metrics would mean TempleOS is waaaaay out of the question.
Maybe Terry Davis was the real world Wonko the Sane?
Does being the last sane man on Earth make you crazy?
About as much as having a single functional eye in a country where everybody is blind makes you king.
Except all our hardware is made by major corporationw and there are no major corporations that work totally ethically and morally
Hmm maybe we’ll run FreeDOS on breadboarded (vintage) 8086s and live in caves 😂.
A Microsoft (stolen) design and the most evil CPU arch?
At least caves might be ethically sourced.
Freedos is not MSDos though. And how is x86 evil?
Have you ever tried programming in straight x86 assembly? :P
RISC-V is a good start though
pretty hard to do computation on a pdf. which is what risc-v is. You need someone to design and build a chip according to what’s in those pdfs
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i was replying to the point that all hardware is made by large corporations. That will not change, irrelevant of whether the isa is open source or not.
You know there’s tons of real chips out already and more coming all the time?
ARM is as much just a spec at heart.
and arm do not manufacture chips. Usually tsmc or samsung do. The fact that chips exist is orthogonal to the argument of who ends up manufacturing them
Yes but who is going to manufacture that chip and board and components?
3D printers, eventually?
Perhaps, but that’s quite far away still
I like the idea of RISC-V, but I need something like a Raspberry Pi except RISC-V. I can accept a little jank, but it needs to be “good enough” if you catch my drift.
Have you seen the Star64?
Are there any performance benchmarks for the Star64?
Pine64 claims the chip to have performance similar to certain Cortex-A55 processors, which would put the Star64 on par with the Raspberry 4 series. Is that true?
OpenBSD got a grant from the DoD, and then Theo posted his opinions of the post-9/11 US government, and they put a stop on the check before it even crossed the border. He pissed a lot of folks inside the Beltway off that day.
It’s so easy to be called *phobic these days. It reminds of those relationships in which people feel like they are walking on eggshells.
sigh, people suck.
This is actually something that bugs me about GitHub - I’m a Professional Software Developer, and we use GitHub enterprise internally at work (don’t @ me, we don’t have the budget to run our own infrastructure, BitBucket is crap and the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs). I’m also in charge of a team, and actively encourage the team to contribute to open source - find a bug? Draw up reproduction steps, report it upstream, and Fridays after lunch are dedicated to getting those bugs fixed. One of these days one of my team is going to run across one of these assholes, and I’m going to have a proper HR incident on my hands because that is a hostile work environment. Doesn’t matter that it is a member of the public being a dick, I’ve got an obligation to ensure that my staff have a workplace free of harassment, and I’ve got absolutely no recourse against this other than to say “cool, we don’t contribute to this repo anymore”.
that is a hostile work environment
I understand your frustration. I go to GitHub für code, not for some weirdo’s Telegram channel. But, come on, do your employees have access to the internet? Does someone maintain a Facebook page on the clock? Is Google allowed? Reasonable people can distinguish between workplace and internet hate.
Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job, as opposed to just randomly stumbling across hate while browsing the internet - if I’ve directed one of my staff to “submit a PR to this repo and work with the maintainers to get it merged” and some asshole drops into the comments they are being forced to engage in that situation, and that is not ok.
One case that I’ve heard of is a pizza delivery place that had to pay some serious compensation to a couple of their delivery people because they refused to stop accepting orders from someone who would be super abusive if their delivery person wasn’t a white guy. Management knew what was happening, the drivers had complained and asked for a resolution, management had refused to do anything about it, so the business had to pay compensation.
Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job
I agree. This makes it a workplace problem. Sucks.
the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs).
I’m guessing they looked at your company and decided you weren’t worth enough to them.
We found Gitlab’s pricing to be, frankly, ridiculous for the number of seats we have. Shame, the product is nice, just the sales team and pricing structure blows goats.
Rules around preventing a hostile work environment don’t place an obligation on anyone to prevent it at all costs. It means that if an employee or - more relevantly here - a customer - is being hostile, then the workplace needs to make sure the employee or customer stops. But if you work in a call centre cold calling people, your company isn’t going to get fined if you get an earful of abuse. (They might get fined for cold-calling depending on specifics :P) Same here.
Transphobia and such aside (which are shitty and unnecessary in their own right), how on earth can you realistically boycott Wayland when nearly every last Xorg dev has moved to Wayland permanently?
X11 is simply end of life, and there are no display server technologies or protocols that exist to challenge Wayland because no one cares enough to bother with the immesnse work it entails? At best you’ll be stuck on a legacy distro for a few years until your display drivers become too out of date for whatever apps you use.
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They thrive of hating the weaker groups in society. If you want some morbid fun, try asking one of those what they should do with trans people if the had the power…
If they had to get mad at reality, there’d be a lot less to be mad about. Being mad about made-up BS is a way for them to have their cake and eat it too. It’s boogeymen all the way down.
They want everyone to be cis, so obviously everyone else wants people to be in their groups too!
Those in power hate losing control. That’s why bodily autonomy, sexual freedom, critical thinking, accurate history, and religious diversity are all their go-to boogymen.
Trans folk are just one of the more recent groups to be targeted.
I’ve known four out trans people. One was a piece of shit. The other three turned out to be amazing and empathetic people who all made my life better just by knowing them.
It turns out, when you deal with people being entitled jerks to you all day, that tends to make you a better person. Forged in fire and all that.
The easiest way to steer a group is to get them all riled up about an issue that you don’t really need to do something about. Whenever you sense dissent or disorder you pull out that issue and everyone’s focused again and then you do whatever is actually in order.
The main reason is that they try to control what people think and how they feel. They don’t understand that just because they want to be seen and treated a certain way doesn’t mean everyone else needs to accommodate them.
If you believe men can’t be women (and vice-versa), that’s fine. If you believe they can, that’s fine too.
If you believe your view is an abject fact and there should be no discussion, then that’s not fine. Unfortunately, a lot of people fall into the last category where they hear something that challenges their beliefs and immediately want to censor it. All that does is create enemies by telling people they can’t discuss their views.
It’s an effective tactic, on both sides.
Nobody is trying to control what people think or how they feel. You’re really just being an ignorant fool in every comment you post, aren’t you?
You want give some context here? We don’t even know who is speaking in these screenshots, and to what end. Why would this even be a conversation?
Seems like some open source dev that responds to the “boycott wayland gist” and is against wayland.
Edit: When I wrote the above, I didn’t really realize what Wayland even was
It’s like the systemd argument all over again. SIGH
I’ve filed a report to GitHub on this guy, I assume you did the same but ugh, people suck.
binex-dsk is now shadowbanned on GitHub
I remember back when I thought all FOSS was part of the FSF, and that itself was formed of hippie liberal progressives. Had a rude awakening when I found about the MIT vs GPL rift, and then another on HN when I realised half the people in software were just there to make money.
I had a period where I didn’t really understand the GPL or what it was trying to do. All I knew is that it was ““viral”” (whatever the hell that meant!) and that, supposedly, trying to use it would forever bind you and your creation to who knows what unforeseen legal horrors. I mean, look how long it is! It’s frightening! I wanted absolutely nothing to do with it at first.
Then I got a clue and actually read it. It’s quite straightforward. For almost all serves and purposes it’s basically just MIT plus copyleft. All the legal density is just an effort to squash every conceivable loophole to the copyleft directive. I’m no longer afraid of it, I think it’s pretty cool.
The thing I want to know now is why so many projects think their shit don’t stink and that they need to pollute the FOSS ecosystem with their own stupid permissive license that is functionally identical to the MIT license.
Could be they like the idea of being in control of the license or something like that
Could also have to do with running a gauntlet of lawyers to be allowed to open some code you wrote.
So like… and hear me out, software has just changed over time. Way more people use and develop it now, so it kind of makes sense that it would revolve around what most people are interested in. That’s not really hippie liberal progressive stuff. I’m in it for that. I’m all about the GPL. But while we are a relative minority, it’s not like our absolute numbers have dropped or even stagnated.
I’d say we’re growing at a steady pace. I think it happens with pretty much all new forms of art. Look at video games, movies, music, etc.
My simple worldview: The Linux kernel is a good thing. A community driven project that betters the world by putting control into the power of the people, written by the goodwill of developers in their free time, and later, reluctantly by big corps who saw it as a threat too big to ignore.
To my naive self, these were all sure signs that the world was moving progressively to the side of the economic left, born out of a need for a common world computing infrastructure/kernel. Nice people doing nice things for other people. Sharing/caring, etc. etc. I genuinely assumed a strong social left movement dominated computer science.
Again, I was shocked by how many people just wanted to use it to found their startups, not share their code, or not contribute anything back to the frameworks that empowered them.
Unsurprising. I’ve seen a fair amount of people in the Linux community like this.
It’s also quite hilarious to see them frothing at the mouth so much over Gnome getting some money to aid in accessibility improvements lol. Can’t be having the less abled using computers now, can we?
Wait until FOSS nerds learn that the NSA and DoD are some of the top upstream contributors to FOSS projects.
[Completely unrelated to the content] How the heck is this post managing to crash two out of my three lemmy clients?
It’s probably Wayland
Evil Wayland is making their app crash
Maybe they don’t support multiple images at once?
Make sure to report it 🤠
same for me
Jerboah works fine. Really after trying around its the best
Have you tried Eternity?
Yup, makes no sense as I dont need multiple accounts for privacy, yet. And its broken in many features
tl;dr?
Someone is mad that GNOME got a 1 000 000 € grant from the government and is blaming trans people
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There are many people like this, who hate Firefox and love Brave/Chromium, hate GNOME, hate Rust, hate Systemd and so on. It is easy to identify these chuds once you talk to them for a little while, or sometimes even observing their internet commentary.
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GNOME is perfectly fine if you want minimal tinkering and a polished “just works” DE. If you want customisation beyond GTK4+ theming or GNOME addons, go for KDE.
There are many excellent GTK3/4 themes like Nordic, Qogir, GNOME Professional, Canta and so on, that make it as slick as XFCE or KDE3 or LXQT.
This is not an attempt to convince you, just show off for how GNOME can look if personalised well with nice font, theme and fractional scaling.
I have lived in those BSD/loonix/pozzila/systemf*gd type of chatrooms for a few years and used that luxury to study these teenage specimens that veil their hatred, sugarcoat it and use their hobbyist expertise on Linux ricing to claim how “diversity” has ruined modern software and OSes.
Well I hate GNOME personally but it’s just because…
I think there’s a big difference between having software preferences (even very strong ones) and making the hate of something a personal crusade.
I like GNOME and I don’t really like KDE. But I absolutely, categorically don’t hate KDE; it’s a big project with a lot of high quality contributors and a lot of very happy users. I just don’t really enjoy the design.
I don’t like Mac, but I don’t hate Mac. I really don’t like Windows, but I’m still able to recognise it for the engineering feat that it is. The world is full of things that aren’t my personal favourite, but none of them have done anything to me to elicit genuine hatred.
Wayland, GNOME, systemd and snaps seem to be the unholy quadfecta of obsessive hate in Linux land these days. People seem to practically set their own personal identity against their feelings on these technology stacks. If you don’t like them, just don’t use them…
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Sorry for the Windows emojis lol, I’m on a computer shop as I post this on lunch break
I would never have known if you hadn’t told me. XD
I dont understand, give context, who is binex-dsk and why should I care?
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Sometimes it helps to talk about things that affect you. It is a healthy way to go about things.
You’d rather not know that someone you might find yourself working with could turn on you in the blink of an eye for a reason you’re not even aware of?
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Ah, the James Damore archetype of an engineer. I bet they get wet dreams imagining themselves as the Howard Roark of programming (and just as delusional).
Can we please stop making anything about how people feel about their selves?
