• RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
      30·
      28 days ago

      I’m really sorry for all the people that did try to stop this, and for the people that couldn’t fit whatever reason. But the idiots that caused it? I really hope they suffer enough to learn at least a bit.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        34·
        28 days ago

        They will not.

        It’s like everyone forgot COVID-19. The administration’s response and almost daily scandal during that barely moved the political needle, and people are even more siloed in now… I honestly don’t know what it would take.

        • EtherWhack@lemmy.world
          6·
          28 days ago

          They need a concept of prejudice that’s simplistic (as in singular) in nature with with a tangible body of people or person/s to blame. It would also need to tie into beliefs that they heard or taught while growing up.

          Trying to get them to understand (put two and two together) the different facets of a conspiracy or something that is rigged tends to lose them when there is more than one thing at fault.

        • Galapagon@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          28 days ago

          As someone who sat “next” to a child clearly coughing mucus at the movie theater: Yes, everyone forgot about COVID (and masking). Can’t wait to be sick in a few days!

          • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
            2·
            27 days ago

            My sister just got sick as stink visiting family who didn’t bother to tell her they were sick! She’s coughing up blood!

            I know a nurse who’s an anti-vaxxer.

            …Yeah, I guess pandemic-conscious hygiene is not on people’s minds.

  • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
    27·
    28 days ago

    Bullshit. They want those workers scared that they’ll be deported because being afraid of that will keep their wages low and keep them compliant. This is good for the larger construction companies who employ those workers.

    I’m going to make a prediction. If I’m wrong then I’ll admit it. I think they’re going to do one wave of very loud deportations, quietly abandon it, and relax the borders briefly to fill the spots that were left by that wave. Just enough to scare the absolute shit out of migrant workers into working, coming home, not putting their kids in school, and not peeking their heads out until it’s time to make agriculture and construction companies money.

    This is drunk speculation.

      • Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        27 days ago

        Then they’ll get to 1) be paid nothing instead of a few dollars an hour, 2) be a drain on the taxpayer from funding+running the new immigrant labor camps, 3) get abused by camp staffers, and 4) still pick your crops

    • GladiusB@lemmy.world
      4·
      28 days ago

      It does them absolutely no good to deport people. It’s who do the shit jobs for low wages without healthcare. They are absolutely trying to keep people on edge.

    • diskmaster23@lemmy.oneEnglish
      4·
      27 days ago

      I don’t think you are incorrect. It’s not like Trump and such have to prove results, just the perception of results.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
      15·
      28 days ago

      It’s almost like Americans, especially one of a specific skin tone, are tender snowflakes that like to complain about a lack of jerbs while not actually wanting to work.

      • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
        1·
        28 days ago

        Sounds a bit racist. You’re insinuating a lot. Where are these people complaining about jobs? Who are they?

        Or maybe some of them who would like a job, but in their area many of those jobs are being taken by individuals who entered America illegally and will work for half as much as the legal citizens?

        But nah, let’s assume they are lazy because of their skin color.

        • Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          5·
          27 days ago

          We should be punishing companies for paying illegal wages under the table no matter who’s the recipient (documented or not), but instead the undocumented status of the workers is used as pretext to deny them any negotiating power for a raise or better conditions. Until we hold the companies accountable in these situations, they’ll continue to do whatever they can to keep their labor costs down. Unfortunately, farm owners have the money in this situation, so their wishes for cheap labor trump any need for unemployed citizens to have a job :)

          These farm jobs aren’t going to be opened up to Americans for minimum wage. They’re going to be done by the same undocumented people, but as part of immigrant detention labor camps as an extension of the prison industrial complex.

          The reality is that we should be paying a lot more for groceries than we currently are, given that the current system depends on horrendously underpaid and exploitative labor. Good luck making that case to people struggling to pay for groceries.

          edit: slight wording because I suck at proofreading before hitting submit

          • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
            1·
            27 days ago

            Yes, they should be punished for paying below minimum wage. Regardless of the workers legal status. And they should be punished for employing anyone who isn’t legally allowed to work here. Hit them with a double whammy. Not some bullshit 6 or low 7 figure number.

            We don’t get to pick and choose which laws to follow.

        • DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world
          2·
          27 days ago

          Lol ok how about picking crops in 100 degree heat for a third of federal min wage?

          That’s the job you want?

          Before you type something dumb also consider that Republicans took away the farming subsidies that would allow farmers to pay their laborers a fair wage.

          • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
            1·
            27 days ago

            I know this may be difficult for you to believe, but there are those who actually like working outside. Now, for what wage is a different discussion.

            Our species is good at adapting. We wouldn’t have made it this far if we weren’t. If those doing the job for a third of the federal minium wage (source needed) were no longer able to, we would be forced to higher citizens for a legal wage (not less than minimum).

            Your comment reads as if you’re in favor or are ok with illegal immigrants being exploited. I certainly hope not.

            • valtia@lemmy.world
              3·
              27 days ago

              Firstly, no one will want to work in a field for minimum wage either lol

              Secondly, they’re not going to replace paid (albeit lowly paid) immigrant workers with highly (relatively-speaking) paid american citizens. They’re going to replace them with unpaid prison slave labor forces