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    You fix that by pushing for ranked choice balloting, until then, it’s your job to get the least objectionable person elected, which in this case is Harris. - Jordanlund

    I agree with the first part, not the second however. This situation of voting for the least objectionable person led us to this kind of election. - Sundial

    You did, by basically doing the “they’re both the same!” argument.

    How in the earthly hell can you not see that they aren’t anywhere close to the same?

    MAGA won’t go away if Harris gets elected, even with a majority of the house and senate.

    Sure they won’t go away, but we can reverse their fucking DEADLY policies. They’re literally talking about rounding up their enemies and putting them in camps.

    This “both sides” argument is such trash, because both sides are clearly nowhere near the same.

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      I never said they were the same. I said if the only way Harris is better than a fascist wanna-be dictator is that fact that she’s not that person, then it’s not a good argument to vote for her. Candidates aren’t and shouldn’t be entitled to vote simply because of how bad the opposition is.

      Americans have been voting for the less shitty options for decades, and all its done is a continuous slide to extreme far right and fascism. People need to demand better during elections and outside of elections. Imagine how different the Gaza situation would be if more people voted undecided in the primaries. It would have forced the Democrats to really address it and rein in the situation. That would have removed the biggest issue with Harris campaign. Michigan would not have been a state that could swing red if that were the case.

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        I said if the only way Harris is better than a fascist wanna-be dictator is that fact that she’s not that person

        That’s the same thing! Nobody is voting for harris because she’s “not trump” like they did with Biden. She’s GENUINELY simply got better policies on literally everything.

        She’s not better than him because she’s not that person, she’s better than him in thousands of other ways. And he literally represents the end of America.

        You’re another one of them. There is literally no way you can play this game and be genuine.

        I guarantee we won’t hear shit from your burner account after Nov 5th…

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          I don’t have a burner account and my stance won’t change after Nov 5th. The entire point of the article is about how Bernie is saying she is still better than Trump on the whole Israel-Gaza conflict. I am saying that’s not a good enough argument to compel people to vote for her. She needs to effectively show what she wants to achieve and how she wants to achieve it. No bullshit about “Israel’s right to defend itself and I support a ceasefire”. Her current stance on this whole issue is not good enough. She has a lot of good policies, no doubt about that and no rational person can say she would be worse than Trump. But she is failing miserably on this topic, and that’s an understatement.

          It shouldn’t be a contentious issue to demand better from world leaders. Especially the leader for the most powerful country in the world.

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            You can demand it after she’s president then, when you continue to have rights in tact.

            You won’t get the opportunity otherwise. That’s the fucking point.

            This isn’t a fucking game any more. This isn’t a hypothetical. This is reality.

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              Excuse me what? Demand it after she gets voted in and can give even less shits? This is the time to demand things. I get people are scared of Trump getting elected, and rightfully so. But people still need to demand things like this. “Better than Trump” is a ridiculously shitty endorsement.