Sure. Even plenty of dem voters! But just to be clear, do you think that the WiFi issue or the genocide issue is costing democrats more potential votes?
15k of them were Hamas terrorists. More civilians die in every war and that’s really fucked up. And do you really not believe the Uyghur genocide is a thing?
It’s not hard to find evidence, Mr. The-genocide-I-care-about-negates-all-other-genocides-taking-place. It’s freaking hilarious to be spuriously called a denier, by someone actually denying a genocide. That was the laugh I had, and continue to have.
If you read the article, it’s talking about a 2-year anniversary of some deliberation made by UN, not about any new evidence of anything. There’s a claim of “hundreds of thousands still remain wrongfully imprisoned”, but I beg you to find a source for that because the article doesn’t provide any… because it’s not true. The focus of the article is “there’s been no punishment yet on any Chinese officials, and the laws are still in place”. No (sourced) metrics of people suffering any abuses, nothing, just a general condemnation without evidence. Did you even read it?
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
✅ (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
"The declarations follow reports that, as well as interning Uyghurs in camps, China has been forcibly mass sterilising Uyghur women to suppress the population, separating children from their families, and attempting to break the cultural traditions of the group.
The US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, has said China is committing “genocide and crimes against humanity”.
The UK parliament declared in April 2021 that China was committing a genocide in Xinjiang.
A UN human rights committee in 2018 said it had credible reports that China was holding up to a million people in “counter-extremism centres” in Xinjiang.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute found evidence in 2020 of more than 380 of these “re-education camps” in Xinjiang, an increase of 40% on previous estimates.
Analysis of data contained in the latest police documents, called the Xinjiang Police Files, showed that almost 23,000 residents - or more than 12% of the adult population of one county - were in a camp or prison in the years 2017 and 2018. If applied to Xinjiang as a whole, the figures would mean the detention of more than 1.2 million Uyghur and other Turkic minority adults."
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Exclusively anecdotic evidence
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
No evidence whatsoever, not even anecdotic. Look at the economic evolution of Xinjiang over time
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Uyghur people were generally excluded from the single-child policy. By that logic, Han ethnics were genocided even more.
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Exclusively anecdotal evidence
Please, be more serious with genocide accusations. This is a serious case of “Nayirah’s testimony” all over again. Basing serious accusations of genocide against an ethnicity on isolated anecdotal evidence, most of it from anonymous interviews, is simply not enough in my opinion, especially when the claim comes against a geopolitical enemy of the USA.
All your sources are from 2021 or earlier, and there’s been absolutely no further evidence of anything you say. Reeducation camps (which the Chinese government recognised existed as part of a counter-terrorism initiative, and which existed for about 5 years) are closed, no more anecdotal evidence has popped up, and there’s no concerns anymore that there’s any genocide ongoing against Uyghur people.
If you’re concerned about prison population of a particular ethnicity, I highly recommend you look at incarceration rates of black people in the USA, which instead of being anecdotic and lasting 5-years, are a systemic issue that has existed for as long as the country has, and has no signs of stopping. I hope you don’t make the claim that the US is genociding black people?
Sure. Even plenty of dem voters! But just to be clear, do you think that the WiFi issue or the genocide issue is costing democrats more potential votes?
The genocide that Israel is doing, or China?
Which one are US elected representatives actively supporting with US taxpayer dollars?
Are you talking about the ten year weapons contract that started in 2016?
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15k of them were Hamas terrorists. More civilians die in every war and that’s really fucked up. And do you really not believe the Uyghur genocide is a thing?
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Please, evidence from 2022 onwards
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/28/china-un-needs-address-crimes-against-humanity
It’s not hard to find evidence, Mr. The-genocide-I-care-about-negates-all-other-genocides-taking-place. It’s freaking hilarious to be spuriously called a denier, by someone actually denying a genocide. That was the laugh I had, and continue to have.
If you read the article, it’s talking about a 2-year anniversary of some deliberation made by UN, not about any new evidence of anything. There’s a claim of “hundreds of thousands still remain wrongfully imprisoned”, but I beg you to find a source for that because the article doesn’t provide any… because it’s not true. The focus of the article is “there’s been no punishment yet on any Chinese officials, and the laws are still in place”. No (sourced) metrics of people suffering any abuses, nothing, just a general condemnation without evidence. Did you even read it?
According to article 2 of the genocide convention, actual killing is not necessary for a genocide.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
✅ (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
✅ © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
✅ (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
✅ (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
Source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037
"The declarations follow reports that, as well as interning Uyghurs in camps, China has been forcibly mass sterilising Uyghur women to suppress the population, separating children from their families, and attempting to break the cultural traditions of the group.
The US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, has said China is committing “genocide and crimes against humanity”.
The UK parliament declared in April 2021 that China was committing a genocide in Xinjiang.
A UN human rights committee in 2018 said it had credible reports that China was holding up to a million people in “counter-extremism centres” in Xinjiang.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute found evidence in 2020 of more than 380 of these “re-education camps” in Xinjiang, an increase of 40% on previous estimates.
Analysis of data contained in the latest police documents, called the Xinjiang Police Files, showed that almost 23,000 residents - or more than 12% of the adult population of one county - were in a camp or prison in the years 2017 and 2018. If applied to Xinjiang as a whole, the figures would mean the detention of more than 1.2 million Uyghur and other Turkic minority adults."
Exclusively anecdotic evidence
No evidence whatsoever, not even anecdotic. Look at the economic evolution of Xinjiang over time
Uyghur people were generally excluded from the single-child policy. By that logic, Han ethnics were genocided even more.
Exclusively anecdotal evidence
Please, be more serious with genocide accusations. This is a serious case of “Nayirah’s testimony” all over again. Basing serious accusations of genocide against an ethnicity on isolated anecdotal evidence, most of it from anonymous interviews, is simply not enough in my opinion, especially when the claim comes against a geopolitical enemy of the USA.
All your sources are from 2021 or earlier, and there’s been absolutely no further evidence of anything you say. Reeducation camps (which the Chinese government recognised existed as part of a counter-terrorism initiative, and which existed for about 5 years) are closed, no more anecdotal evidence has popped up, and there’s no concerns anymore that there’s any genocide ongoing against Uyghur people.
If you’re concerned about prison population of a particular ethnicity, I highly recommend you look at incarceration rates of black people in the USA, which instead of being anecdotic and lasting 5-years, are a systemic issue that has existed for as long as the country has, and has no signs of stopping. I hope you don’t make the claim that the US is genociding black people?
Imprisoning and sterilizing an ethnic group is not “anecdotal”. It’s documented and happening. That’s genocide.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/24/china-imprisoning-uighurs-satellite-images-xinjiang
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-weekend-reads-china-health-269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c
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