Hey look you were confronted with evidence

Lol, where?

The mod logs of some user you don’t like don’t prove anything lmfao

Cope harder.

Any evidence to back your wild claims, or…?

So that’s a no then.

Shocking 😂

Lmfao, wow, the Musk defence, impressive… 😂

Any evidence to back your wild claims, or…?

As soon as I read about this I thought it was a terrible idea, but other than the instance they chose, and the fact that they didn’t bother consulting the community (which are bad in their own right) I didn’t really have enough information, but since their mod team have started responding to people, it has become clear that it is not a community I want to participate in.

Beyond minimising and dismissing the legitimate concerns people have, and being very territorial over a community they had seemingly often left for someone else to mod for them, reading through the comments on one of the announcement posts, I found an example of the kind of “over modding” they disagreed with, and I recognised it as a comment that was removed from a post I had made. At the time I was very glad it, and several like it were removed, and was quite surprised a few days later to see them restored, and was really confused and disappointed. I took it as an orange, almost red flag, which along with a previous unrelated orange/red flag made me take a slight step back from the community.

Now reading Ada’s side of the story, it all makes a lot more sense - my guess is she had originally removed the comments (she had come on to the post to say she was intervening), and the 196 team then swept through and restored a whole chunk of them back when they finally got around to modding themselves.

I’m almost glad this happened, because now I know who restored those comments, and whose modding to be wary of.

Bottom line - these are not the mods for me, and since an alternative has already been opened on blahaj, this is a non issue, screw 'em. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

E: They have now made a non-apology post, in which they confirm my suspicion/conclusion that it was in fact the comments removed from the post I had made (because Ada prioritised marginalised people’s voices and needs, over those of the self-proclaimed “allies” who came to tell us what bad marginalised people we are for “alienating” them by also prioritising ourselves and our needs) that caused this move.

Classy.

This

We understand that a lot of respect and trust was lost, and we expect it’ll take a lot of work and a lot of time before we can earn it back, but we would be grateful if y’all gave us that chance.

and

Having another team take over splits the community. The more fragmentation there is, the less longevity and volume of community each skew will have.

Did give me a good laugh though. I’d say in case they hadn’t noticed, the community has already moved on, but I suspect that it is precisely because the community has moved on that they even bothered to make that post and pretend like they’ve learned something from this.

I think the most depressing thing about this is that it will actually come as a surprise to some, who will be feeling let down by their pet “good billionaire”.

I hope if nothing else this serves as a wake up call to them to the true and inevitable nature of billionaires, but I won’t hold my breath…

E: smfh, just seen that a mod of this very community (and every other community on beehaw it seems lol) is one of those people, and I was wrong, they don’t even feel let down, they just flat out refuse to acknowledge. What a joke.

I mean, seriously what in the living fuck.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/billionaires-emit-more-carbon-pollution-90-minutes-average-person-does-lifetime

Well, yeah, just like carbon footprints, household recycling, plastic straws, and so so many more of these eco-nonsense trends - distractions designed and spread by those actually destroying the planet for their own personal gain, to get us to crab in a bucket each other, instead of turn on them.

I remembered seeing some drama between the two instances from before I moved over to db0, so I just assumed off the back of that, but good to know, thanks! Definitely don’t go looking for them, I have better things to do with my time and little remaining sanity lol

the glorious Chinese workers paradise

The scary thing is they genuinely believe this.

I had responded to a tankie who claimed that China wasn’t an oligarchy by sarcastically asking if they thought the workers control the government, and like 5 different (or are they?) hexbears descended on me to tell me that yes, akshually, they do (and therefore must be the most self loathing workers on the planet, if those are the conditions they inflict on themselves, and curiously keep “electing” the same authoritarian, billionaire, dictator to be at the top of their classless, moneyless, stateless society). 🤦‍♀️

E: on a side note since I’ve got you here and you’re an admin, I thought this instance was defederated from hex, and I have them on my personal blocked instance list, should I still be seeing their users?

Tankies gonna tank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol, I got a similar removal and ban (rule 1, 2*) the other day for replying to someone who mentioned credit ratings as a counterpoint to the attempts to discredit the existence of “social credits” (or whatever actual system exists in China, and it does exist, to keep tabs on their population):

This right here.

And the point is that an average American barely knows how those work, or exactly what information the government and or private financial and other companies collect about them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply), in the same way the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).

This post is such tankie bullshit.

Pretending like only one government does (internal and external) propaganda, or only one government is oppressing and lying to its own people (not to mention people in other countries), or that the average person in any country know, or is willing to admit to themselves, never mind others, and especially never mind people from a country you’ve been propagandised against from birth, the flaws of their own government is not only laughable, and hypocritical, but also massively counterproductive.

*as you can see, the ban is really for calling OP “tankie bullshit” and *gasp* pointing out that China is bad in the same ways America is bad. Such fragile egos lmfao

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, but sadly people wouldn’t listen, they were (rightfully!) so desperate to get the tories out, they didn’t want to hear that the establishment had arranged for them to be voting another one straight in.

And they also don’t want to hear that this was entirely intentional, that it is a well established way of getting the blue tories back in and worse than ever next election, and that continuing to play this silly game of “vote for one of the two people we’ve approved for you to vote for” is ever going to benefit us as a society, but only the ones manipulating us in to keeping them in power.

And so the exact same cyclical shit will keep happening.

a country that only cares about billionaires and companies

So… Both countries involved?

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