You can still buy the games outside of Game Pass.

I don’t get the controversy over 30fps. Like I played RDR2 at 30fps and didn’t even notice it.

The gameplay itself is far more important and on that front Bethesda has been second to none. There isn’t even one single game that comes close to what they have achieved in The Elder Scrolls. Kingdom Come: Deliverance was close but much smaller in scope (which makes sense given the size of the studio).

I’ve played every single one of their games since Morrowind and while Fallout 76 was a flop and Fallout 4 was perhaps a bit disappointing, at least without DLC, almost all of their games have been incredible.

In Todd we trust.

The Return of the Obra Dinn is one of my favourite games. It’s an indie game but quite well known so I’m not sure if it counts as a hidden gem.

I really liked The Case of the Golden Idol too, and its DLC.

You can see I like detective games haha…

I was playing it in xbox. I think I may already have it on Steam from some sale or something but I just prefer to sit on the sofa as I work behind the screen all day already.

I’m playing it at the moment. Today I smacked a poacher to death with my mace. Great game.

I started playing it on Game Pass but got stuck and then it got taken off of Game Pass. I like detective games though so I’ll try to finish it at some point.

Hahaha, GTA San Andreas had that right? You could get super fat and then you had to go to the gym, you could even have a heart attack if you did nothing, that was pretty hilarious.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has the stuff where if your clothes are dirty or ragged people will comment on it and treat you differently, and that’s like an AA studio, so hopefully they can manage it.

I mean the future Story Pack expansion that is mentioned in the Deluxe Edition. Given they are already selling it, it doesn’t seem so speculative.

The Bethesda bugs are usually amusing and loveable though.

I just hope it keeps the morality system of the original games and the freedom you had (like you could just go and rob and murder people etc.) that really made the original Fable stand out over other RPGs at the time as few franchises gave you such freedom (The Elder Scrolls, Deus Ex etc.)

Yeah, but I think they could still put it in Game Pass if they wanted to. I think in general Game Pass doesn’t include the DLC. I actually bought the DLC for Escape Academy as it was so fun so I guess it helps as a revenue stream for smaller games that without Game Pass probably wouldn’t get much exposure.

The GOTY edition does include all of the DLC though? I bought it on sale a few days ago as I never finished F4 and Far Harbour had really good reviews.

I prefer quality over quantity, especially given the number of studios that are out there.

But if this just means we wait 7 years to get a Redfall, yeah… no…

Skyrim has all the DLC, but only the Special Edition not the Anniversary Edition. Fallout 4 does not have the DLC. So I expect it won’t have the DLC.

I’d be tempted just to buy the game itself to have it separate from Game Pass but realistically as long as I have my Xbox I’ll probably keep my Game Pass subscription and $60 is a lot less than $170 haha…

I really liked it. The music was iconic too, everything about the game is so unique. Sometimes I just listen to the OST and wish I could play the game for the first time again haha.

Hmm, I don’t have vacations until the 11th so other than being able to get it before the weekend, having it 5 days earlier isn’t that big a deal.

Being able to get the story expansion at presumably a cheaper price is worth it though, as I’m guessing they won’t add this to Game Pass?

The Return of the Obra Dinn is by far the best detective game I have ever played.

Ooooh, we’ve got this notion, That we’d quite like to sail the ocean…

It looks pretty cool. worth trying at least.

Embracer Group owns a whole load of stuff. I think they own the Deus Ex IP now too since Square Enix sold it off to focus on NFT’s. 🫠

Anyways I hope no one loses their job and they can continue to put out great games.