• HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Younger New Yorkers do have the father-bother merger, but older New Yorkers don’t.

    Also, Run DMC probably speak African-American English, which, as this map says, is generally independent of other dialects and not included on this map.

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        3 months ago

        The Run DMC lyric actually sounds like the (previously unmerged) father vowel /ɑ/ went toward the bother vowel /ɒ/ than the other way around. I might even put it as /ɔ/ or /o/ when listening to the sounds on the IPA chart.

        Whereas if you listen to the pronunciations on Merriam Webster father and bother it actually lists them both as /ä/, which is apparently a near-back vowel instead of back. I don’t know which one NY does though.