• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Extremely unfun fact: Israel is holding hundreds if not thousands of times as many innocent civilians hostage as Hamas on trumped up charges if any, routinely torturing them physically, mentally, and sexually.

    So you can take your Hasbara gaslighting deflection and shove it.

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      4 months ago

      We’re not morons. We don’t have to pretend that people held by Israel are universally innocent. I’m sure there’s an innocence rate just like any justice system; but a significant portion of those people did criminal things.

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        4 months ago

        We’re not morons

        Not convinced based on your conduct so far or the fact that you return to the scene of your humiliation two days later when everyone else has moved on from the conversation.

        We don’t have to pretend that people held by Israel are universally innocent

        We don’t have to pretend that they’re universally guilty and deserving of all abuse, though. The IDF torturers do, though.

        a significant portion of those people did criminal things.

        Prove it, then. Don’t just torture people who you don’t know to be guilty or attack military police trying to question torturers

        Even if they WERE all guilty, torture would still be cruel and dehumanizing treatment that is never acceptable under any circumstances.

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          Even if they WERE all guilty, torture would still be cruel and dehumanizing treatment that is never acceptable under any circumstances.

          So take hostages is your conclusion?