• TacticsConsort@yiffit.net
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    2 months ago

    Just a UK guy here, but she does seem like a pretty sensible swap. I know there’s some controversy around her because of her time in the police system, but I haven’t heard anything bad about her at all during her time as VP, she’s basically been off the radar (compare that shit to Pence).

    A couple good speeches here and there, some reasonable policies to offer people, and Biden’s endorsement, and you’ve got a really solid replacement.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, it’s not like it takes a lot to beat trump

      We just keep running terrible candidates against him

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    2 months ago

    Honestly. I don’t give a fuck at this point. Just give me a D who can get to 270. Fuck the republican traitor filth.

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      They Harris Trump wins she is a fucking horrible choice. Yall forget how many independents are sitting on the fence. Which means a lot of them still can’t choose (which should say a lot) No way she can beat Trump.

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        2 months ago

        I still can’t fathom how the fuck anyone is an independent anymore. Too lazy to vote, yes. Have no idea who your party’s candidate is? Sure. Don’t know which party to vote for? No way in hell.

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          Looking at voting data, almost no one is really independent. The vast majority of people who register independent almost always vote down party lines for one party, and they just don’t want to label themselves democrat or republican.

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            Which is why I don’t understand why the Democrats seem to so heavily target these mythical independents. Feels like the Republicans have completely stopped catering to anyone other than their base, meanwhile Democrats seem to ignore their base or compromise their own values for voters that don’t even exist. To me it’s the strongest argument for the whole theory of controlled opposition, even if I don’t really believe in that.

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              It is because our elections are not won by large margins. The difference between winning and losing is often decided less than 3% of the vote. While people who register for them, are basically locked in, with more nuance I am not getting into now, there still is about 3 percent of independent voters that do seem to vacillate between parties. With independent voters making up 42% of registered voters that amount can win, or lose, them the election.

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                Ok so 3% of the 42% of independent voters are truly undecided. Why spend the effort on them, vs actually motivating the roughly 50% of your base + independents who are actually Democrats that just don’t show up.

                It feels like by doggedly pursuing this tiny fraction of 3% undecided voters, they disillusion a much higher percentage of their own already locked in supporters from actually showing up. If they spent their efforts on targeting supporters that just don’t vote, could they get 5% more votes? 10? 15?

                Time and time again it feels that the side that wins isn’t the one that flipped a vote, but rather the side that was more excited and engaged. Someone the Republicans seem to have figured out and work heavily towards.

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                  It is a lot harder to get a large percent of your voting base behind a single person when it is the de facto party for anyone left of autocratic, right wing, authoritarianism. Meanwhile a republican can just belligerently spout bigotry, play a “strong man” leader, and pay lip service to theocrats, and a small handful of single issues, and activate a base who will vote for them like it is a religious decree.

                  It is that simple. Roughly 1/3 of the population want fascism, or something is the same wheelhouse. A little more do not necessarily want that, but are unconcerned with it happening as long as they get to own a gun, or whatever their single issue may be. Everyone who thinks this is bad is stuck with the democrats, and most people are to physically comfortable to truly risk anything for the large systemic changes needed to fix this. At least not the will to sustain it for the multiple generations it will take to see the fruits of that labor.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    A new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 6 in 10 Democrats believe Kamala Harris would do a good job in the top slot. About 2 in 10 Democrats don’t believe she would, and another 2 in 10 say they don’t know enough to say.

    The undecided can be convinced during the campaign.

    But I doubt I’ll start thinking Kamala would be a good president…

    I do think that she’ll be able to beat Trump in the election at least. Which is better than Joe.

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      Exactly. I’m pretty sure she’s a psychopath with a bunch of ties to some horrible people, but it beats the other psychopath who has a bunch of ties to horrible people that specifically want to kill me for the variety of ways in which I am not a suitable barefoot and pregnant housewife. Also she’s not aggressively geriatric with a stiff gait and a vacant stare and could just be completely bodied by catching a common cold.

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      2 months ago

      This was a national poll…

      Did you have a typo or something?

      What did you mean by “national poll” I don’t think it means what you think it means

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        Sigh. What do polls of the whole nation say, you know, rather than just what people who were registered to vote Democratic. What does the country as a whole think? Is she more popular than Biden? Would more people vote for her in swing states? Is she more popular than Trump?

        It’s not really a strong endorsement of the Democratic deputy president to say that specifically Democrats think she might be OK to replace the president, is it? “People who like Democrats like a famous Democrat” just isn’t a strong recommendation. Need more info.

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          Not only are you looking for this poll, the article even mentions what you’re looking for…

          Did you not read the article before dismissing it?

          They can only fit so much in the headline…

          It’s not really a strong endorsement of the Democratic deputy president to say that specifically Democrats think she might be OK to replace the president, is it?

          6/10 Dems though Biden would be replaced, remember what Kamala is being compared to.

          6/10 thinking shed make a good president is a positive move…

          Need more info.

          I’d suggest you start with the article, and if you still want more, look at the polls data directly

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            I asked what I thought was a really obvious question - about what the rest of the country thinks, because it’s the one that matters and you started shouting at me for asking.

            If it made you so cross, why not just not answer, or just politely say that there’s more info in the article instead of ranting at me.

            It’s not really a strong endorsement of the Democratic deputy president to say that specifically Democrats think she might be OK to replace the president, is it?

            6/10 Dems though Biden would be replaced, remember what Kamala is being compared to.

            6/10 thinking shed make a good president is a positive move…

            I see you quoted me more stats about what Democrats think. Thanks for the clarification. /s

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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              To be honest I had already copied the part in the article you wanted, then figured you’d just ask for what’s in the next paragraph.

              It’s honestly a lot easier when you read a headline and think “I need more info” to just read the article.

              It’s all right there in the article, and a professional wrote it.

              If that’s not enough, well, it’s really not hard to interpret poll results directly. I do it all the time, been doing it for years.

              It’s a good skill if you care about politics, but you’ll never learn how to fish if people keep handing you fish when you ask