• blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
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    2 months ago

    He will according to his own professed and acted stance on Israel.
    You say it like he already wasn’t a super killer during his first term?
    I’m not USian, but my country had a Trump-wannabe as president, so I know very well how it is.

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      Who did trump bomb? Show me a clip where trump says he will bomb palestine. Ill wait. I’m not talking about that time when he said he could end it fast that people with nothing else pretend can only mean a basket full of nukes.

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        2 months ago

        He kept arming Israel at least the same as previous presidents, so certainly some of the bombs being used now were given by him. And he also supported the Zionists in the Israeli government.

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        2 months ago

        Show me a clip where trump says he will bomb palestine. Ill wait.

        Show us a clip where Biden said he would bomb Palestine. We’ll wait.

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          If you don’t know about all the support and weapons that biden has been giving since October, then you are just late to the conversation, and you have a bunch of catching up to do. This isn’t in any way a disputed thing.

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            Okay, so we’re not talking about active bombing of Palestine anymore, good.

            What makes you think Trump wouldn’t give Israel even more support and weapons?

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              Right, since biden gives the bombs to Israel to actively drop instead of hopping in a plane and dropping them himself, it is OK. I know you know the kinds of gymnastics you are forced to play here. I also know that if anyone else who isn’t on your side was doing this, you would be all over them. This is exactly the problem. Intellectual dishonesty in political discussions. You feel like you deserve the right to lie because you think the other side does the same. They do do the same, the result of this is you two groups of self justified compulsive liars living in your own echo chambers, making no progress and learning nothing.

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                Right, since biden gives the bombs to Israel to actively drop instead of hopping in a plane and dropping them himself, it is OK.

                That is NOT what I said. You complain about intellectual dishonesty but in the same breath put words into my mouth that I did not say. If you want to be intellectually honest, why don’t you answer the very simple question instead of going off on irrelevant tangents?

                What makes you think Trump wouldn’t give Israel even more support and weapons?

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                  All we have to go on is what people have done. Trump never genocided anyone. Trump barely supplied any weapons or did any warring. This is not the case with nearly every president for the last 100 years. Biden has shown his absolute willingness to fund and supply weapons for a genocide. I can’t tell the future, but I can honestly look at the past because I’m not hell-bent on ignoring all the bad things one side does.

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                    All we have to go on is what people have done.

                    Not exactly true. For example, why do you think Trump has never once uttered the words “cease fire” in regards to Israel/Palestine? Seems like a pretty simple way to signal that you want Israel to stop killing people.

                    Trump never genocided anyone.

                    Neither has Biden, or Harris for that matter.

                    Trump barely supplied any weapons or did any warring. This is not the case with nearly every president for the last 100 years. Biden has shown his absolute willingness to fund and supply weapons for a genocide.

                    …because there was no major conflict between Israel and Palestine during his presidency. He was far more supportive of Israel than any other president, so it’s pretty safe to say he’d give them just as many arms or more than Biden has.

                    I can’t tell the future, but I can honestly look at the past because I’m not hell-bent on ignoring all the bad things one side does.

                    Are you sure about that? Do you not think Trump has done any bad things at all?