• Haui@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    It’s a fallacy. Why would I stop drinking alcohol, why would I stop smoking, why would I stop sunbathing without protection? Why would I leave the titanic? It is unsinkable. It works for you because you haven’t gotten to the bullet in the chamber yet.

    The people here are trying to tell you that it’s not safe and that it will only get worse. And in opposition to your arguments, these facts are based on professional opinions and the known business practices of the companies these products are associated with.

    I know you have your opinion but an opinion is not your personality. You can let go of it without ruining your life, again in opposition to keeping it and actually harming yourself, either financially or otherwise.

    Why is it so hard to trust people who do this stuff for a living?

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      @Haui @Cleverdawny, the discrepancy between Chromium and Firefox users is absurd, if there is a common enemy that endangers the existence of both and all the other minority browsers, it is this that in the end ends up that only Chrome, EDGE and Opera exist anymore, because these have no qualms about including this Google Tokens shit.
      It is a matter of thinking and acting together against this barbarism, something that Mozilla and Vivaldi are already doing, but more is needed.

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        Thanks. That is very kind of you to point out. Also, I don’t care about firefox at all. It was just the best I could find at the time and since am watching industry news if something not only marginally better pops up. Hasn‘t yet. As a sysadmin it is my job to keep systems running and ideally not vendor lock the company or myself. That’s why I stay away from google as much as I can.

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          @Haui, that is the problem, there are a lot of browsers, almost 100, out there, but there are only a few decent browsers.
          There is Firefox and Vivaldi, maybe Otter, the three I currently have, but FF and Otther, because of test reasons, due to different engines they use…
          Chrome, EDGE and Opera are Spyware, Brave not very trustworth because of shady relations with Cryptocompanies, a lot of other forks, some not so bad, but very weak in the market.
          No much left.

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            I agree. The reason for this is market control imo. Chrome is default on chromeos, edge on windows and they’re doing everything they can to make it hard to integrate with other things.

            Actually, it should be outlawed to even install a browser and definitely to recommend one.

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              @Haui, what should be declared illegal is that a private company dominates an essential public space such as the Internet today.Everyone uses the browser that suits them, as a basic tool to access this space. Those who want to protect privacy, avoid using those of these private companies like Google, Microsoft or this Chinese thing.

              Open the rest of the text in a new tab
              https://file.coffee/u/5tHJjZEmLvw7f_g4P_99U.pdf

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                Absolutely. I agree. There should be a tool to select browsers on every os but none preinstalled.

                The description must come from the makers and sorting can only be done on alphabetical order, last update and number of downloads maybe.

                Have a good one.

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                    Well, you could see it like that I guess. :D

                    But honestly, an app that just shows a repo of browsers (which were virus tested) and downloads one but can itself not be used as a browser should be mandatory for every OS and done.

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      @Haui @Cleverdawny, I also use Chromium, Vivaldi since over 7 Years, not because Firefox or Otter Browser, which I also have as second an third one, because of something called business ethics which has Vivaldi, because it fits best my needs, because it’s faster than FF, because it’s de-googled and don’t have third party investors, because it’s a European employees-owned Cooperative, it’s a safe Browser with good privacy, products associated are Mastodon, Vivaldi mail, own userblog, sync…

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        That sounds pretty awesome. I read about vivaldi pretty often. If the need pops up I will definitely check it out. Thanks :)