PlayStation often makes unforced errors that make you wonder how it gained such a significant foothold across the last few console generations and such a fiercely loyal audience.
Mostly unforced errors from other companies. It’s dumb decisions all the way down.
Yeah they both make a bunch of really anti consumer choices constantly, I never got the diehards who go hard for the console. Exclusive games I can at least understand, but is an Xbox really that functionality different from a PlayStation?
I was a Nintendo kid in the 99s, then had a PS2 followed by a 360, I really only got a PS4 cause the opportunity for a deal came up, and I only got a PS5 cause I already had a PS4.
Admittedly that’s probably where most of the fan clubbing comes from, generationally upgrading until you’re to use to the system to change.
Let’s not forget that with Gamepass, it’s not just a better game by folding in PC, but they’re doing something completely different with their consoles than Sony is. More and more, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are either competing with Valve or against themselves, and not each other.
Except for Nintendo, they’re still just doing what they’ve been doing for the last 20 years, releasing consoles with outdated hardware and relying on gimmicks to sell them, at this point they’re not even trying to compete anymore, Valve is a stronger competitor for Microsoft and Sony than Nintendo nowadays.
I don’t think they would be ditching the table if they were winning tbh. Their goal is always to get as many people to subscribe to their stuff as possible
Playstation’s exclusives are on the whole, a lot more interesting to me. I honestly have almost no interest in Xbox because of that. It’s not the hardware, it’s purely the software.
I think the answer is simple (they probably mentioned it in the article I’m not reading). Sony makes good hardware and good games. They don’t really need to compete with Nintendo since they kinda do their own thing at this point, and Microsoft is really no better. I also think Playstation is generally regarded as having better exclusives, even during the 360 era where Xbox clearly won.
I feel like we‘re not seeing/talking about the reason the console market is another duopoly. Its a harsh failure on cartel prevention laws imo. New consoles should pop up here and there yet they dont (very small opening for steamseck likes). Its not a healthy market.
At first glance I think the IP laws are the problem here. A new console should be able to run xbox games and/or ps5 games and compete on hardware and ergonomics alone imo. That way the competition would drive prices down and decisions would again be for improving the service, not the bottom line.
I feel like you’ve made an error even if we’re only talking about the major 3.
Also wonder if you’re blind.
New consoles should pop up here and there yet they dont (very small opening for steamseck likes)
They do. You just don’t hear about them all the time because the main 3 are so present in the discussion. Atari released the VCS (2021) for example. Oculus I would argue should count at this point too. There’s many examples we could go on about. But I have a feeling you don’t actually care about this discussion since you want to discount the obvious forefront contender of the SteamDeck.
A new console should be able to run xbox games and/or ps5 games
This is not at all the problem. You need to compile the game for the platform. That wouldn’t be IP laws, that would simply be development… except in the case of console exclusives. Which would still not be IP laws, but instead would be contract law between the developers and the console company. The developers of the game 100% have a right to the source code of their game and to compile it for whatever they want.
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Can you block yourself on Lemmy? I’ve never tried.
Edit: In a move that surprised no-one. They downvoted my post and didn’t say anything in return. I guess they have no further argument.
Mostly unforced errors from other companies. It’s dumb decisions all the way down.
Yeah they both make a bunch of really anti consumer choices constantly, I never got the diehards who go hard for the console. Exclusive games I can at least understand, but is an Xbox really that functionality different from a PlayStation?
I was a Nintendo kid in the 99s, then had a PS2 followed by a 360, I really only got a PS4 cause the opportunity for a deal came up, and I only got a PS5 cause I already had a PS4.
Admittedly that’s probably where most of the fan clubbing comes from, generationally upgrading until you’re to use to the system to change.
Playstation won with the PS5 because MS realized PC players have more money and went back to them.
MS left the game because they found a better game.
Let’s not forget that with Gamepass, it’s not just a better game by folding in PC, but they’re doing something completely different with their consoles than Sony is. More and more, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are either competing with Valve or against themselves, and not each other.
Except for Nintendo, they’re still just doing what they’ve been doing for the last 20 years, releasing consoles with outdated hardware and relying on gimmicks to sell them, at this point they’re not even trying to compete anymore, Valve is a stronger competitor for Microsoft and Sony than Nintendo nowadays.
Nintendo has always been the king of handheld for as long as handheld gaming has been a thing.
I’d put a lot of money on them viewing Valve as their biggest threat currently.
Yeah, I loved my switch when I first got it, but have hardly touched it since I got my steamdeck.
But the switch isn’t just an underpowered console… It’s a handheld with an HDMI port
I don’t think they would be ditching the table if they were winning tbh. Their goal is always to get as many people to subscribe to their stuff as possible
Playstation’s exclusives are on the whole, a lot more interesting to me. I honestly have almost no interest in Xbox because of that. It’s not the hardware, it’s purely the software.
I think the answer is simple (they probably mentioned it in the article I’m not reading). Sony makes good hardware and good games. They don’t really need to compete with Nintendo since they kinda do their own thing at this point, and Microsoft is really no better. I also think Playstation is generally regarded as having better exclusives, even during the 360 era where Xbox clearly won.
How do you tell everyone you like baseball without telling them you like baseball.
I feel like we‘re not seeing/talking about the reason the console market is another duopoly. Its a harsh failure on cartel prevention laws imo. New consoles should pop up here and there yet they dont (very small opening for steamseck likes). Its not a healthy market.
At first glance I think the IP laws are the problem here. A new console should be able to run xbox games and/or ps5 games and compete on hardware and ergonomics alone imo. That way the competition would drive prices down and decisions would again be for improving the service, not the bottom line.
Disclaimer: trolls will be blocked immediately.
hmm…
Sony… Microsoft… Nintendo…
Duopoly…
I feel like you’ve made an error even if we’re only talking about the major 3.
Also wonder if you’re blind.
They do. You just don’t hear about them all the time because the main 3 are so present in the discussion. Atari released the VCS (2021) for example. Oculus I would argue should count at this point too. There’s many examples we could go on about. But I have a feeling you don’t actually care about this discussion since you want to discount the obvious forefront contender of the SteamDeck.
This is not at all the problem. You need to compile the game for the platform. That wouldn’t be IP laws, that would simply be development… except in the case of console exclusives. Which would still not be IP laws, but instead would be contract law between the developers and the console company. The developers of the game 100% have a right to the source code of their game and to compile it for whatever they want.
Can you block yourself on Lemmy? I’ve never tried.
Edit: In a move that surprised no-one. They downvoted my post and didn’t say anything in return. I guess they have no further argument.