• myplacedk@lemmy.world
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    Where do you live, where taking breakes is frowned upon? That’s crazy.

    Here in Denmark, I’m being reminded to take breakes and go home. I have been asked if I’m sure it’s not hurting my work/life balance, before getting overtime approved.

    It’s also common to stay at work after hours to hang out, if there’s a nice place to do that.

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      Come over to America! A magical place where you are only worth the money you make for your corporate overlords, and despite being told by your boss that they are SO glad that they hired you, your performance review is a 3/5 because they don’t want you getting too comfortable and “there’s always room for improvement!”

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        1 year ago

        Ah, here it’s very different. In multiple companies I’ve gotten consistent 5/5 and told by my own manager that I should really get a promotion, but they can’t give me promotion or even a raise. Just the 1-2% salary adjustment everybody gets.

        Feels so good… 🙄

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            At least for me in IT, everybody usually gets an adjustment that’s on average above inflation. So if you work the same place for ten years without ever getting a raise, you still keep up with inflation.

            I think my lowest was 0% and my highest almost 3%. Some years slightly below inflation, but in any 3 year period I think I’ve been above inflation.

            Then any raise is on top of that.

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        Same in my office in the UK, I got asked if I was not taking enough breaks or doing work outside of work hours as I was doing more than they expected and my manager was worried about me burning out, but having a chill atmosphere and a nice place to hang out and chill in the office just means that I can be more productive and happier at work so it’s a win-win… A lot of HR types don’t realise that it takes a nice office in both material and culture to make people productive and just go for the former which has the lower effect of the two when used alone.

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      I know that the American capitalism thing is a meme at this point, but working in software, every company I’ve worked for isn’t against you taking breaks or doing whatever as long as things get done. I’ve played foosball with my VP during normal hours before, and it was slightly awkward but good fun.

      The usual issue I see in my industry is that you constantly accumulate more responsibilities without any corresponding increase in pay. It’s especially bad for morale when you see someone leave, and their responsibilities get distributed to the team, but no one gets any part of the old person’s salary as a raise to make up for the added responsibilities even when the higher ups refuse to hire a replacement since you’re all clearly handling it fine.

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      Ok, calm down there, commie. Maybe you’d better go check in with your “family” and your “adequate housing”. The rest of us are here to make money… For other people.

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      My guess is USA or UK

      Source: live in USA. Taking breaks is seen as being lazy. As is taking days off when your sick.

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        I’ve been told multiple times to take more sick leave.

        Usually when I come back from sick leave, I’ve been told I should have taken a day more to recover fully. But after days in bed, I just really want to start doing something, even if I’m tired.

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      Listen, speaking as an American, we know Danes have better quality of life, but we’ll be damned if we will sacrifice capitalism to get there! Our motto is “if you’re not working, you’re losing money!” That only applies to the lower ranks, of course.

      Seriously tho, I would love to live in a society that expects companies to hold the well-being of their employees over profits (not that these two are mutually exclusive), and the culture is changing slowly, but we’re not there yet.

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        Exactly, that’s the thing. Here in Denmark, many (most?) companies think that happy workers are more productive.

        I might be colored by mostly working in places where it’s very expensive to replace an employee, but then again, for Americans I mostly talk with people in a similar kind of job.

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        Denmark is capitalist. High investment rates are literally their biggest internal economic driver.

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          from Wikipedia:

          The labour market is traditionally characterized by a high degree of union membership rates and collective agreement coverage.

          Well, there’s the problem. Our capitalists say that’s stupid, they’ll just lose money!

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      That’s nice and all, but staying after hours to hang out sounds awful. I don’t want to befriend those losers, I want to get on with my life. They can all rot in hell for all I care, I’d sell them out in a heartbeat.

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        1 year ago

        That’s fine, I can’t expect everybody to like that kind of stuff.

        But it’s still important to have that for those that do. And of course that people more like you, get what you want.