• azenyr@lemmy.world
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    Clearly the race and genre are both only being used in this sentence for bullying purposes. What could very well be just “a random guy” was specifically changed to “a white male” to really attack the race and genre mentioned. If it was another race or genre it would be called racist. The “white males” won’t accept this blatant racism many more years without standing up against it, trust me. But then they will be called racist. They are not racist only while they accept being bullied and accept racism towards them. This hate speech against white males is being completely normalized in america daily. And being used in comments, sentences and now even books in such a “normalized” way that it disgusts me. Just because whites are not a minority, doesn’t mean we can bully and be racist to them. And in this exact sentence, it triggers me so much that the “while male” adjective was used with the clear intent of bullying and image degradation of the mentioned race and genre.

    When will we, as humans of all colors, stand up against racism against whites (and especially males) that is strangely being more and more accepted as a normal thing daily?

    Edit: ofc I am being hugely downvoted. Society can’t understand that bullying against whites actually exists. She just didn’t need AT ALL to use the race and gender in her post. Minorities and inequalities between genres exist and should (and are) be solved. Women and all other races deserve all the same as white males do. But white males don’t need to be bullied in exchange or used in jokes like this like if they are the modern punching bag of standup comedy.

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      White dude here. It’s super easy to read something like this without feeling disenfranchised or bullied. Sure we can do better to avoid it, but that should not at all be the main takeaway from this testimonial. Why aren’t you angry at the common propensity for women in places of academic and professional authority being looked down upon and disrespected like this? This is super common.

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        One can and should be angry about both. I wouldn’t go so far as to call the person who posted this a racist, but it’s still not a good practice. Taking an example of a stupid thing someone did and directing the criticism at their race isn’t OK for good reason. (Yes, saying “a white male did ____” is directing the criticism at the group, not the individual.) It encourages people to form judgments about white males as opposed to assholes who belittle others, which is who she’s really having trouble with.

        The same thing being done to minorities and women is a much bigger problem, but using the same attack in the opposite direction isn’t exactly a good solution.

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        Why aren’t you angry at the common propensity for women in places of academic and professional authority being looked down upon and disrespected like this?

        Well, I am angry at that. Women and all races deserve equal rights and possibilities. We should keep fighting for that. But white males don’t need to be transformed into comedy punching bags in exchange for women/other races equality. Can we respect everyone INCLUDING white males?

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            No it doesn’t. Not wanting to be the target of racial or sexual discrimination is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask for. I swear, half the “leftists” on Lemmy are just larping…

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      https://slate.com/technology/2014/05/not-all-men-how-discussing-womens-issues-gets-derailed.html

      The race mention is signalling the privilege displayed in the behaviour. We know that all kinds of people can be a bigot, but this ain’t it fam. This stuff hurts both you and me. Men do need help, but that is not this conversation.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627321004177

      Hurt people hurt people.

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      If you don’t see that many white men have been so privileged for so long that they act entitled to be shitty towards others (including to other white men) than you must be seriously delusional

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      When will we, as humans of all colors, stand up against racism against whites (and especially males) that is strangely being more and more accepted as a normal thing daily?

      You get 0 ‘progressive points’ for standing up for white males. One of the last socially acceptable punching bags. Look at the proliferation of the ‘dumb dad’ on sitcoms, totally acceptable.

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      only white men can read an anecdote about a woman being tired of having her own field mansplained to her, and turn it into “…and that’s why this is bigoted against me, actually”. Holy fucking shit dude.