One thing that leaps out at me about this ruling is that courts understand the internet a lot better nowadays. A decade or so ago Sony would have probably gotten away with the argument that Cox profited from the users’ piracy; nowadays judges themselves use the internet and are going to go “lolno, they probably would have been Cox customers anyway. It’s not like anyone pays for internet connection solely to pirate. And in most areas people don’t even have a choice of provider, so how is Cox profiting from this?”

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    Don’t believe that you’re always gonna be protected by some judge somewhere.

    Get a proper VPN, dammit!

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      In the end, you can’t out-tech the law. You need rights.

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        Your so-called “rights” won’t hold to the pressure of massive media capital alone. It will erode away.

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          They have so far. It’s still legal to use a VPN without verifying my identity. It’s still legal, though difficult, to access the Internet anonymously. The local police department doesn’t blanket monitor everyone’s search history.

          increasingly difficult tech solutions for privacy are a bandaid not a cure.

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        tech the law. You need rights. I’m not sure we can right-out the system, we probably need both.

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          The right to privacy could help, like media company’s can’t use legal action to get IP addresses

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      I just wish they would advertise the truth. VPN’s are basically useless nowadays for everything except torrenting. Most websites once they detect a VPN address will just shut down. Go ahead and give Imgur a try with it turned on to see what I mean.

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        I use a VPN constantly and sadly a lot of sites add known VPN ip’s to a ban list, I just reconnect my VPN and usually I get a good address but yea it sucks

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        Private trackers just lessen the surface area. When the companies decide to lobby enough to change the laws you’ll need to hide with private as well.

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        Yo! What exactly is different about private trackers? Like how does that help? Im lucky enough to have one but due to the seed ratio rules, I find myself downloading from my usual sites more frequently because I worry about seeding indefinitely.

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        Private trackers are a false sense of security. If you’re able to get an invite to a private tracker, you really think a multi-billion dollar industry won’t also be able to get one?

        At most, private trackers offer more consistent content and more accurate seed/leech counts. But they absolutely won’t protect you from the lawsuits from media companies. If anything, being on a private tracker increases your chances of getting fucked in court, because enforced seed ratios means every single user is liable. Remember that leeching isn’t a crime, but seeding is. Because distribution is what the media companies care about, and that’s only accomplished through seeding. Just like how cops won’t typically be interested in busting a drug buyer, when they can bust the dealer instead.

        Your nice shiny 12.0 ratio means you’re getting fucked hard when the dildo of consequences finally arrives. And the dildo of consequences rarely arrives with lube.

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        “don’t use public trackers”

        it’s next to impossible to qualify for a private tracker

        let alone if the one you find has the stuff you want

        let alone making their so-called “ratio”

        ¿???

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        Folks need to learn how to rip. It’s a little more tedious but you can’t be tracked and the quality is almost always better. Even the most inexperienced can get started after a few hours of research and tinkering.

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        “don’t use public trackers”

        it’s next to impossible to qualify for a private tracker

        let alone if the one you find has the stuff you want

        let alone making their so-called “ratio”

        ¿???

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      Yo! What’s a proper VPN these days? It seems like all the ones I used to trust went to shit.

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        I personally like Mullvad, their practices, and their straightforward price of 5€/month. They’re not going to try to lure you in with discounts by subscribing for multiple months or years. Now if Mullvad has gone downhill, someone chime in.

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          Mullvad doesn’t do port forwarding anymore, AirVPN seems like a good replacement but I forgot where they are based

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        Just self-host a VPN on a VPS so you can enable disk encryption and disable logging.

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        Edit: looks like I need a new VPN…

        I use private internet access (pia). It’s reasonably priced, really good for the number of devices, and I don’t believe they keep logs. At least it used to be that way, but I haven’t checked that since I signed up a decade ago. I have had zero issues with anything or anyone while using it for any reason. Uptime is basically 100%. Also has mobile support if that matters.

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          Same, I used to use PIA for about a decade, but I could’ve sworn I heard they were one of the ones that had gone way downhill. Otherwise I never had an issue with them. I’ll have to do some digging, see if it was founded or just a reddit rumor.

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            PIA’s service is still decent and offers all the features that other VPNs do, but they got bought out by a company that has added spyware to programs in the past. So many users jumped ship when that buyout was finalized, because it’s hard to trust their application or their service when the owning company has a known history of intentionally infecting their users.

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              Okay yes that’s what I remember reading. I have Express VPN now, and while researching found it’s still surprisingly highly and doesn’t log. it’s on the more expensive side though, so I may still give proton or one of the other recs a try.

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    Ain’t nobody going to talk about that guy in the thumbnail eating a CD while wearing that hat? Stock photos are weird.

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      Up next Sony sues Pacific Gas & Electric for profiting off of piracy. All those torrents were powered by Pacific Gas & Electric.

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          And finally, after suing everyone, sue the almighty himself, who dared to bring all these pirates into existence.

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      I agree but the average person doesn’t even know what that means.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A federal appeals court today overturned a $1 billion piracy verdict that a jury handed down against cable Internet service provider Cox Communications in 2019.

    If the correct legal standard had been used in the district court, “no reasonable jury could find that Cox received a direct financial benefit from its subscribers’ infringement of Plaintiffs’ copyrights,” judges wrote.

    The case began when Sony and other music copyright holders sued Cox, claiming that it didn’t adequately fight piracy on its network and failed to terminate repeat infringers.

    Cox’s appeal was supported by advocacy groups concerned that the big-money judgment could force ISPs to disconnect more Internet users based merely on accusations of copyright infringement.

    If not overturned, this decision will lead to an untold number of people losing vital Internet access as ISPs start to cut off more and more customers to avoid massive damages."

    In today’s 4th Circuit ruling, appeals court judges wrote that “Sony failed, as a matter of law, to prove that Cox profits directly from its subscribers’ copyright infringement.”


    The original article contains 543 words, the summary contains 172 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      Dear Lemmy.world. can you kill ALL bots? they’re the first sign of a website going to shit.

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        You know you can just turn off bots in your profile settings… right? That is an option here.

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          :) You do know that bot is banned in lemdro.id right?

          And to be fair, it is unsolicited bot spam (I miss BotDefense) although it ultimately is up to the admins and mods in this…instance and there is always the possibility of useful bots. Blanket blocking them via your profile seems a bit, meh, e: especially if you want to invoke one which is always the better way?

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    I live in Brazil, there are many problems here and stuff. But at least no one gives a fuck about piracy, lol. Never needed a VPN for torrents, not gonna need anytime soon.

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      If I’m not mistaken, Brazilian law allows people to download and make digital copies of copyrighted material, so long as it’s for personal use. I should probably look into that sometime