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  • I think we’ll just have to disagree on this one. I don’t think this was trolling and I don’t think this is anything like MTG and Boebert. The speech has brought media attention to this that has reached people that otherwise didn’t know it was happening. His message wasn’t something juvenile like those examples you mentioned but rather something serious. It probably won’t change the minds of anyone in powers, but even if it reaches a few people and moves them a little closer to changing their mind, then it was better than nothing. I don’t believe a second that it’s going to have the adverse effect of turning anyone off that already was never going to be swayed.

    I didn’t know that this was happening until this morning when it was half way done. I found out through various articles. I’m sure I’m not the only person that saw that, and I can guarantee that others saw the headline that a Democrat gave a 23 hour speech and found something positive in that. Imo, that’s better than a headline that says no Democrats argued against the current regime. There was no musical number or childish gestures, but a legitimate speech. The delivery of the message is important and this was delivered professionally.

    I would be elated if any of my reps did even the bare minimum to try and represent me.



  • I know that we went rounds the other day, but genuinely, I’m curious why in this case you are critical of one of the only things that I’ve seen Democrats do in 9 months that is even slightly opposed to Republicans. I definitely wish that more was done, but given the lack of control in Congress at least protesting on the floor is better than nothing.

    I mentioned it previously that I do think that you often post valuable content, even when I don’t agree with the delivery. This feels like a situation where I would feel if even performative, we would agree that protesting is better than nothing.


  • Exactly. I don’t enjoy or actively seek the hurting of these individuals, but I can’t keep caring about people that repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot. I can empathize with people that make a mistake. I will go so far as to say that people that voted for Trump in 2016 fucked up, but that they made a forgivable mistake. I can’t do that for anyone that voted for him in 2024. There are no excuses. He was a known commodity that detailed exactly how he was going to rule if elected again. Nothing that he had done since January is a surprise at all. There are plenty of rural residents that are grouped with the majority that voted for Trump that unfortunately are being punished for the actions of their neighbors. I have the most sympathy for those families as they aren’t just most heavily affected, but they are grouped up with those other terrorist supporters. The rest, other than the innocent children, can sleep in the bed they made with empty stomach and crippling debt.







  • Your response was to someone that asked a question and seemed legitimately ignorant on a topic and you shit on them for being mistaken. I acknowledge that the point you were trying to make was valid, but what I remember most is your hostility, not the content of your message. In turn, my response to you is to just tell you that you’re being a dick. I didn’t go in with the intention to educate you on a topic you may be ignorant on, but to chastise your behavior. Those are two very different situations that can merit different responses. If you read back, my initial response was firm but respectful and then escalated as you kept doubling down.

    Are you legitimately not seeing the parallel to the people who refuse to support a protest because it inconveniences them instead of unifying against the problem they claim to agree with?

    Where is this coming from? There is no parallel between that and your response. OP isn’t (assumed) intentionally spreading propaganda where the US government that is being protested against is. The motive is different. One from a position of ignorance and the other malice. Peacefully writing letters to a government that doesn’t give a shit obviously isn’t effective so inconveniencing people is more effective. Explaining to an individual, who specifically asked a question on the topic, why their belief is likely wrong doesn’t require the same type of response.

    The aggressiveness of my response to and about you are to match the hostility in yours. That’s the difference between me to you and you to OP.

    Again, the assumption is OP legitimately thought that the shooter did it due to trans rights. I personally heard the alleged shooter has someone trans close to them. I also heard that he is a right wing nut job. Those are about the only two things that I personally read on the topic. Now I can connect the dots myself and don’t trust a word out of a Republican’s mouth, so I already was in the same boat as you. Other people may hear the propaganda and not know that they have been fed lies. Shitting on them for their ignorance is shitty.






  • This feels like a very aggressive response to someone repeating something they heard in the situation. Unless there’s more conversations elsewhere with this particular user on this topic that triggered you into being so defensive, the post you responded to doesn’t suggest that OP is “so fucking convinced Kash Patel’s obvious propaganda was real”. FFS they even opened with a question about the narrative.

    Maybe there’s history here, but you’re response is really dickish for no reason.