• TakiMinase@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    That’s why a percentage of income should be the fine. Like the porsche man who got a $400000 fine. Rich prick wasn’t laughing all of a sudden.

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      8 months ago

      Several countries use a dayfine system, we in Sweden have used dayfines since 1931, Finland since 1921, Germany since 1969, There are a few more countries using the system, but I could not quickly find any historical data about them.

      Dayfines are great and should be used globaly.

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        8 months ago

        Just out of curiosity, how does that work for foreigners, they would only be able to tell the income of citizens would they not?

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          A valid question, I unfortunately does not have an absolute answer as I don’t know, but we can speculate…

          There are only two ways I could see this done.

          1. Ask the foreigner’s government for documentation on the subject.

          2. Ask the individual in question for proof of their income.

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      A percentage of income still isn’t equitable though.

      If you’re destitute a week’s income means you starve.

      If you’re a millionnaire a week’s income stings bit doesn’t affect much.

      If you’re a billionnaire there is a good chance you don’t technically have an income, and if you do you can lose half of your wealth without feeling it.

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        8 months ago

        This is true, but you could still have a progressive fine. Very good point with the billionaire, though. They live in a completely different world, in terms of how their wealth flow works. Still, it seems like an alternative fine system could be worked out that would hit them hard.

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          The real solution is to remove the classes so high above everyone that the rules don’t apply. This is a difficult problem only because we’re talking about people who are so ludicrously wealthy a fine for literal hundreds of millions of dollars wouldn’t make them homeless.

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            I agree. John Oliver once referred to billionaires as something like a bug in the structure of the system, and I wholeheartedly agree with that analysis. Unfortunately, they’re a bug that’s not so easily dislodged. Until then, designing systems that are able to deal with their existence is the best way to deal with them.

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        The billionaire might not feel it, but the money gained could be significant for all sorts of good things that help lift the burdon of the lower class.