• Artyom@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Wow, this map fucking sucks at describing native american regions.

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    The First Peoples of North America definitely didn’t have such sharp, well defined border lines. It’s not as of they had a bunch of written treaties establishing hard borders.

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      11 months ago

      This is a conceptual alternate history map of modern day North America without colonisation. It’s still reasonably inaccurate of course but it’s not meant to accurately portray the borders of a pre-colonised North America.

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          iirc its a word for enemy, IE the colonists encountered a rival tribe, and never cared to correct their mistake.

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            The Wikipedia says it comes from a French misspelling of an indigenous word that could be used to describe the people. So it might be a little less offensive than that, but still not great.

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      Obviously this is 2015 AD meaning as 2015 years After Diogenes which is closer to 1500 CE or Century of Erasmus.

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    Why are the Hopi drawn in Texas? They were/are in current northern Arizona. Texas had Tawakoni, Wichita, Kickapoo and Comanche tribes.

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    This is by far the largest settler colony and one of the largest real, actual genocides conducted in human history. Not fake like the ones West invents about others.

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        The ones in China, Russia, North Korea and whoever is the enemy of USA. Ironically, USA has been part in most genocides ever committed, some done by themselves and none that they actually discovered via authentic journalistic investigations.

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          Okay let’s break this down into the three unrelated parts:

          Which genocides? Sounds to me like you know that the genocides you’re referring to actually have huge amounts of evidence, so you’re intentionally avoiding saying which specifically to avoid scrutiny.

          Most genocides ever committed? The country has only existed since 1776, and humans have been committing genocide for a hell of a lot longer than that.

          none that they actually discovered via authentic journalistic investigations

          What the hell is that meant to mean? Who is “they”? None of what? What makes a journalist’s investigation “authentic”?

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            11 months ago

            I am not interested in western pseudo-intellectual hipsters that like to dance around morals and authenticity.

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              Nonono, you’ve passed the point of getting off that ride.

              What’s happened here is you came in spouting absolute bullshit with nothing to back it up. Then you got called out for it by this “hipster”, and realising that, you’re trying to back out by pretending you never wanted to have this conversation in the first place.

              Now you’re doing the internet equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and yelling LALALA to convince yourself you’re right, and that you’re not giving your government a free pass to commit genocide, it’s just those damn westerners trying to “make you have morals” and “form sentences that actually mean something”.

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    It’s interesting how these lines are still pretty accurate for cultural divisions in colonial NA. At least at at quick glance.