• macniel@feddit.de
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    It’s hard but not impossible. When you go grocery shopping always look at the back of the product to see if it has the taint.

    Problem is indeed the restaurant as you can’t be sure if they didn’t you nestle products.

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      I can’t help but notice you have disagreed with the comment above you, then gone on to explain that the exception to your disagreement is the exact scenario they described.

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        Except no? Its not “literally impossible” to avoid nestle. You simply have to shop your groceries more mindful.

        But okay, if its utterly impossible to look on the back of the package and or do a quick internet search to see if that label belongs to nestle, yeah its impossible.

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          Joining in because why not. The comment OP never mentioned groceries. They mentioned how it’s impossible to avoid Nestle when eating out/getting take out, which you agreed with.

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            The important thing is, they disagree, can’t we just leave it at that and be angry in peace?

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          This whole thread is weird. I think it’s hilarious how people are arguing with you, saying it’s impossible and then linking sites that list every brand owned by Nestlé. You’d think it would occur to them that if one is able to consult a list, that makes it possible to avoid Nestlé products, since one can merely consult the list.

          I think there are some synapses not firing here 😅

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            Well thats a bit harsh, don’t you think :)

            Also not only are there those lists, but we all have an internet enabled smartphone nearly always with us right? So check the label, see its hierarchy and decide then.

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              Yeah true, I was probably harsh. It’s more like people taking a position and then protecting it at all costs, even when it unravels lol

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            You’d think it would occur to them that if one is able to consult a list, that makes it possible to avoid Nestlé products

            I think you’re forgetting something. This entire chain started with an example to support the theory of it being impossible. The one about eating out where you don’t know the ingredients being served to you or what brand they’re from. You chose to ad hom without even addressing it. 🤷

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              Oh sorry I didn’t realize we are legally mandated to eat out at places that use Nestle products, my bad.

              The statement that it’s impossible is entirely wrong.

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                Was that supposed to be a coherent response? Everyone eats out. I think you would have to scour a nation pretty thoroughly to find even a single person that hasn’t at least had a McDonald’s shake or something. Whether something is mandated or not was not the conversation. The conversation was whether or not it’s possible to actively avoid completely, and restaurants hardly ever list their recipe as it is proprietary.

                Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No? Then why would you posit that response? You’re going to need more to support your claim than what you’ve said here before you can justify dismissing people.

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                  hasn’t at least had a McDonald’s shake or something

                  What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant. If they choose to forgo Nestle products from this day forward, then it is possible.

                  Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No?

                  I never argued that one was legally mandated to shop at a grocery store. Whether one shops at a grocery store or not, one can consult a list and therefore not buy Nestle products. This is quite simple.

                  Then why would you posit that response?

                  Just as an example of how it is possible not to buy certain products, regardless of how ubiquitous they are.

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                    Past, present, or future- it doesn’t matter. People need to eat. Suggesting that people just don’t go to restaurants is as helpful as suggesting people just don’t go to grocery stores. That’s why this fact:

                    restaurants hardly ever list their recipe as it is proprietary.

                    is doing a great job of convincing me that it is actually impossible, and if I’m honest you’ve said nothing to convince me otherwise. I think that’s the disconnect.

                    I’m not going to stop going to restaurants. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Nestle as much as the next lemming, but restaurants are not something I’m ever going to be able to cut out of my life completely. And I’m willing to bet my life on this being true for a lot of people.

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      The issue with boycotting a huge company like Nestlé is that you put in a ton of time and effort while denying yourself lots of useful products and on Nestlé’s end, they lose out on less profit than they bring in in a single minute.

      They made $9.7 billion Net income in 2022. That’s over $18,000 EVERY MINUTE. You can’t make a difference and they don’t care. The only ways to enact change are either through the legislative/regulatory route or through the extralegal route.

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        Sure, its pissing against the wind. And I lose out on kitkat and lion (damn i liked that bar) or I need to buy “clones” but I can’t wholeheartedly buy their shit. It may not be much, but atleast i can live with myself.

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          You could order KitKat from the US. Hershey makes it here.

          I wouldn’t recommend it though, Nestle KitKat is much better. It’s a shame Nestle is so evil or else I’d be driving over to Canada to stock up every few weeks.

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          The amount of sugar and palm kernel oil in Nestle chocolate makes me not even enjoy their products if I get them for free. They barely taste like cocoa

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      It’s not always that obvious. Nestle owns many companies and many of those products say nothing about Nestle on them.

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          Thats a searchable list of all products/brands by Nestle? Thats quite helpful!

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        Sure they do own many companies. I just dont think its impossible, as I steer clear of anything nestle. Sometimes I grab something new and sounds interesting like the Vegan products by Gourmet Garden and just putting it quickly back as I saw nestles logo printed on the back.

        It takes a bit of discipline.

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          I think you’re missing the point I was making. There’s a lot of Nestlé products that don’t have their logo anywhere on the packaging because it’s instead made by a company Nestlé owns

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          Lol, no, you don’t understand. Companies (literally millions of them) own many other companies that they never put any logo on or anything. For an outside of Nestle example, check out this list of companies owned by Kroger that you will never find anything labeled by Kroger inside of:

          https://www.kroger.com/i/kroger-family-of-companies

          Also this list may be VERY incomplete because it’s hosted by Kroger and they have no obligation to give the entire truth here.

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            Food 4 Less, Ralph’s, and Jay C Foods all have Kroger brand foods on their shelves. Not sure about the rest as I haven’t shopped at the rest of those stores. Also they are attempting to acquire Albertson’s.

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            I’ve never seen Kroger nor any of that companies. Do they sell in Germany?

            And if the umbrella company is proud of thier products they bought, of course they put their label on it or state it somewhere. Where else would be the point of it? Brand recognition and all.

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              Kroger is a grocery store chain in the US, I suspect they don’t operate in Germany but I might be wrong.

              They basically are or own many different grocery store chains across most of the US.

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          “It takes a bit of discipline.”

          Also, you should work on your tone, speaking like you’re holier than thou is already cringe, but when you’re wrong it just makes you look like a big idiot.

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            Yes it does take a bit of discipline. And no, I dont think I’m holier than thou.