Again you make assumptions about me you have no right to. I voted Harris under great duress. At the time i figured that the harm would get worse under her but maybe there would be enough time to get democrats in line.
It was not the loss of the election that had me see different. It was what the democrats did afterward that has shown me exactly what needs to be done.
Harm mitigation only works as a concept with a plan to stop the harm, or if there is no other choice. And that is not the case. You and yours said that the election was not the time to deal with the reckoning the Democratic Party earned? Turns out that time has passed. The next best time is right now.
So you’re saying you want to pressure the democrats into being a good party by making them lose, because you saw what a bad party they were when they lost?
Democrats don’t need my help losing—they’re perfectly capable of doing that by ignoring their base and enabling atrocities on their own. And let’s be clear: the goal isn’t to make them lose. The goal is to force actual progressive change, something your “vote blue no matter who” mantra has consistently failed to deliver.
You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to blame progressive voters for genocide enabled by Democrats while simultaneously insisting those voters are powerless and should shut up. Either our votes matter—and we deserve to make demands—or they don’t, and your argument falls apart.
What your position really defends is endless compromise, endless capitulation, and a party that knows it can take progressive votes for granted while continuing to slide right. You’re not opposing accelerationism—you’re endorsing it, just with a blue sticker slapped on it.
So let’s stop pretending you care about progressive ideals. If you did, you wouldn’t be spending this much time trying to silence the only people still fighting for them.
If you took a 9mm and shot yourself in the head right now, that would matter. You would be dead.
And it wouldn’t make the Democrats into leftists. You would not be fighting for progressivism. Sure, your actions would matter. They’d just suck. You’d accomplish exactly the same amount with that action as you would from not voting. Nothing good, plenty bad.
Your response is grotesque meant to shock or shame, and you come off as unhinged. But i notice you refuse to answer my challenge nor my points, but you did successfully cede ground to me. You tacitly admit that the Democratic Party has no interest in progressive values and thus validating our disillusionment. Your call to vote blue no matter who is the direct reason for the loss of the progressive vote, yet you offer no solution to the rightward slide and double down on enabling the status quo. You would rather live in the comfortable present than fight for the future. How is that any better than the republicans?
There’s this thing you should know about that’s way better than shooting yourself in the head. It’s called a communist revolution. Put the useless morons in charge so the revolution is easy.
Or shoot yourself in the head and hope it makes AOC win the primary. I dunno I’m not the boss of you. I can’t stop you from shooting yourself in the head if you think it’s better than voting Democrat.
Thats accelerationist flailing. After all your accusations about me, to fall to this… there really is no need to continue is there? You have abandoned your reason and your argument.
You didn’t vote one way or the other. You voted no preference. You told the government you don’t have an opinion on how much genocide you want.
Again you make assumptions about me you have no right to. I voted Harris under great duress. At the time i figured that the harm would get worse under her but maybe there would be enough time to get democrats in line.
It was not the loss of the election that had me see different. It was what the democrats did afterward that has shown me exactly what needs to be done.
Harm mitigation only works as a concept with a plan to stop the harm, or if there is no other choice. And that is not the case. You and yours said that the election was not the time to deal with the reckoning the Democratic Party earned? Turns out that time has passed. The next best time is right now.
So you’re saying you want to pressure the democrats into being a good party by making them lose, because you saw what a bad party they were when they lost?
5/7 perfect plan
Democrats don’t need my help losing—they’re perfectly capable of doing that by ignoring their base and enabling atrocities on their own. And let’s be clear: the goal isn’t to make them lose. The goal is to force actual progressive change, something your “vote blue no matter who” mantra has consistently failed to deliver.
You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to blame progressive voters for genocide enabled by Democrats while simultaneously insisting those voters are powerless and should shut up. Either our votes matter—and we deserve to make demands—or they don’t, and your argument falls apart.
What your position really defends is endless compromise, endless capitulation, and a party that knows it can take progressive votes for granted while continuing to slide right. You’re not opposing accelerationism—you’re endorsing it, just with a blue sticker slapped on it.
So let’s stop pretending you care about progressive ideals. If you did, you wouldn’t be spending this much time trying to silence the only people still fighting for them.
If you took a 9mm and shot yourself in the head right now, that would matter. You would be dead.
And it wouldn’t make the Democrats into leftists. You would not be fighting for progressivism. Sure, your actions would matter. They’d just suck. You’d accomplish exactly the same amount with that action as you would from not voting. Nothing good, plenty bad.
Your response is grotesque meant to shock or shame, and you come off as unhinged. But i notice you refuse to answer my challenge nor my points, but you did successfully cede ground to me. You tacitly admit that the Democratic Party has no interest in progressive values and thus validating our disillusionment. Your call to vote blue no matter who is the direct reason for the loss of the progressive vote, yet you offer no solution to the rightward slide and double down on enabling the status quo. You would rather live in the comfortable present than fight for the future. How is that any better than the republicans?
There’s this thing you should know about that’s way better than shooting yourself in the head. It’s called a communist revolution. Put the useless morons in charge so the revolution is easy.
Or shoot yourself in the head and hope it makes AOC win the primary. I dunno I’m not the boss of you. I can’t stop you from shooting yourself in the head if you think it’s better than voting Democrat.
Thats accelerationist flailing. After all your accusations about me, to fall to this… there really is no need to continue is there? You have abandoned your reason and your argument.
Slowing down the descent into fascism isn’t accelerationism, and you shouldn’t shoot yourself in the head.